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        06-28-2010, 06:35 PM
      #11
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    Northern, it may not have purpose in the show ring today. But surely it did many hundreds of years ago when, like Payette said, hand to hand combat was a very common occurence. If you were a mounted fighter and people on the ground started advancing toward you, you could knock them over/clear the way for your escape with the horse's leg.

    If a movement like this wasn't used, why would people take the time to train these and the other airs above the ground back then, when they weren't just a "trick"?
         
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        06-28-2010, 06:40 PM
      #12
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    Originally Posted by My Beau    
    If a movement like this wasn't used, why would people take the time to train these and the other airs above the ground back then, when they weren't just a "trick"?
    You will find that it is not trained at all if ever outside the Iberian market. It is a circus trick, no more and is in the same class as cantering backwards.

    Iberian type horse are well suited for exaggerated foreleg lifting and as a result I have seen some very strange things taught them.
         
        06-28-2010, 06:56 PM
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    MyBeau, The reason(s) for the foreleg-lifting not having been used in military/classical dressage--aside from the impracticality; SW on the battlefield & you're dead-- but rather in modern times, are the same as for any other modern circus moves: they're flashy & impress a public ignorant of true horsemanship/training. In the past, part of the trainer's job was to provide a high-stepping but very docile mount for the non-horseman King to impress the crowd with, in parades & such. Thanks for your input, Spyder.
         
        06-29-2010, 12:51 AM
      #14
    Foal
    Dont like it.

    Reminds me of when horses break a front leg and try to run.
    But that's just what I think.
         
        06-29-2010, 02:41 AM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Im not sure what I think... It looks kind of pretty, but like boldstart said, it reminds me of when a horse breaks its leg, but still goes.
         
        06-29-2010, 02:44 AM
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    Green Broke
    I have heard of it but didnt know what it was and never seen it. Cool though, good horse
         
        06-29-2010, 03:24 AM
      #17
    Trained
    Not everything has to be practical. Just interesting and entertaining. If everything was practical there wouldn't be any fun in life, plus we would probably all give up our horses for cars now since horses are no longer the practical way to travel.
         
        06-30-2010, 01:26 AM
      #18
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    Interesting & entertaining/fun: much disagreement as to what we can legitimately put animals through for these desires--the recent bullfighting discussions witness to that. For myself, I don't like to see the horse doing such things as foreleg-lifting unless he enjoys it, because it's an artifice unrelated to the horse's best use of himself.

    Re: get rid of our hobby horses because we don't need them for transportation/work: there's much loss in only having hobby horses.
         
        06-30-2010, 06:32 AM
      #19
    Trained
    My apologies for poor wording. I did not mean that at all.

    But when you think about it, the entire reason for taming the horse originally came from needing them in war, to help the farm, transport us where we needed to go, etc. But now horses are really only used to showing off how good of trainers we are or how good we are as jockeys. You play the "Practicality" card a lot in your posts, Northern. Perhaps it's time to let it go. Horses are no longer practical.....but neither is spending hours on petty teenage girl makeup or going out to see a movie, or even leaving home anymore. If everyone was practical, we wouldn't be much of a fun group of people, would we? Some of the best things in life are impractical. And horses are one of them. Even the people that still use horses for logging and hay fields end up causing a whole helluva lot more damage than modern machinery....And I know, I live in a town primarily created for logging. A town nobody's heard of, so I list my status as Eagle Point. Less than 500 people live in this town, and just behind our house I can see people driving big ol' draft horses with logs strapped to their backs.

    I mean no offense to you. I've said it before but I'll say it again: I do respect you as a horseman and I look forward to eharing your replies. However I do notice you say a lot of things are "Impractical" when hardly anything is practical anymore.

    And just for the record - Humans are a sick race. I'm actually quite ashamed to be one.....Hell, if I could change my race I would. And if I didn't end up liking it, that would be just too **** bad for me, wouldn't it? But there's nothing we can do except try not to be as bad as some of our race.

    And back on topic....I don't think that I would train my hore to do this, but as a performance trick it's great. What people don't realize is that horses are a lot like humans - We perform stupid/ridiculous/insane tricks all the time. Yes we have a choice, but I think the horse knows exactly what it's doing. People don't always realize that you can't physically make a horse do anything. What we call "Training" is nothing more than mind games to make the horses think we're invincible. But the moment that horse realizes we aren't.....Well, that'll be the day a horsemen realizes exactly how much he relied on trickery. That's why it's much better to bond with a horse. If you have a bond, then you can do this whole "Silly trick" thing and have it not be so silly.

    Well, anyway, I'm rambling. Rambling is one of my major skills....in case y'all hadn't figured that out yet ^^
         
        06-30-2010, 09:20 AM
      #20
    Foal
    Geez...I didn't mean for my post to start anything.
         

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