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post #11 of 16 Old 06-24-2013, 09:10 PM Thread Starter
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1. I just watched her video from Dream Horse. Her under-neck is pretty well muscled indicating to me that she is ridden with her back hollow often and is accustomed to bracing. If this is the case, it is a training issue and will take time to correct. I suggest working on riding her in a "round and down" frame while warming up, ALWAYS keeping her back soft and supple and lots of impulsion behind really pushing her into the contact. Make sure your wrists are supple and arms are nice and supple as well. Also, she is on the fore often in the video. I would work on lots of upward/downward walk/trot, trot/walk transitions eventually leading up to canter work (lots of transitions in canter too) when you can successfully ask her to transition upward/downward without hollowing/tensing in the walk and trot then move up to canter.

2. When were her teeth floated last?

Also, make sure she is not behind your leg. She looks behind in the video, until she is jumping lol
Thanks for this reply! Whats the best way to keep her round and down without becoming a hand rider? Her teeth were floated in the last year so I don't think that would be a problem:)

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post #12 of 16 Old 06-24-2013, 10:45 PM
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Does your saddle fit? My guess (if she is a typical high whithered TB) your saddle may be pinching her whithers. Try a mattis pad under the saddle.

Sorry but putting a pad under a saddle that is too tight will only make things worse! That like saying to someone who is wearing shoes that are 2 sizes too small to put a few pair of thick socks on for extra padding. It's going to do diddly squat.

It's going to create less room under the saddle for her withers (if the saddle is tight-not saying it is...) which will only make things worse.

OP - I agree with working long and low, also try checking the saddle fit, checking her teeth and also getting a bodyworker out to check her for any muscle soreness.
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post #13 of 16 Old 06-24-2013, 11:39 PM
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Make sure the tack fits PROPERLY.

Make sure you look at doing carrot stretches and under-saddle flexion exercises. Jane SaVoie has some GREAT ones. Look her up on her "Supplying" and "+7 +1" exercises.

THIRD and most importantly, do not force your horse into a frame or their head down or anything like that. This means do not just shorten the reins and pull your hands back and expect them to relax. Now if they're stiff as a plank, then try some of the flexing exercises. Start at the halt, then the walk, then the trot, then the canter.

Make sure you fully understand what you're doing. Don't just monkey-see monkey-do it because there is a feel to it and if you do it wrong then it does not help them out.

Best of luck :)
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Thanks for this reply! Whats the best way to keep her round and down without becoming a hand rider? Her teeth were floated in the last year so I don't think that would be a problem:)
Lots of impulsion, and soft supple wrists and giving arms. Pulling back is bad! You want contact though. Think of two reins, two seat bones, two legs and keep yourself really balanced and relaxed. I would stretch her at the beginning and end of every ride really well. As I said before lots of upward/downward transitions are a great tool. You want her back to come up and be gently swinging. Think of riding her behind, rather than her head/face. Lots of half-halts to rebalance are helpful as well.
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Sorry but putting a pad under a saddle that is too tight will only make things worse! That like saying to someone who is wearing shoes that are 2 sizes too small to put a few pair of thick socks on for extra padding. It's going to do diddly squat.

It's going to create less room under the saddle for her withers (if the saddle is tight-not saying it is...) which will only make things worse.

OP - I agree with working long and low, also try checking the saddle fit, checking her teeth and also getting a bodyworker out to check her for any muscle soreness.
A mattis pad has its merits to aid in adding cushion between the back/spine. I agree that it shouldn't be a substitute for a proper fitting saddle. BUT, it has its uses, especially for a high whithered animal that few (if any) non-custom saddles properly fit. For minor adjusting, it is a perfectly acceptable tool that the OP is already using.

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Lots of impulsion, and soft supple wrists and giving arms. Pulling back is bad! You want contact though. Think of two reins, two seat bones, two legs and keep yourself really balanced and relaxed. I would stretch her at the beginning and end of every ride really well. As I said before lots of upward/downward transitions are a great tool. You want her back to come up and be gently swinging. Think of riding her behind, rather than her head/face. Lots of half-halts to re-balance are helpful as well.
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One more thing: The feeling is similar to that when you feel them pooping. I know that sounds weird..but if you feel that, you know her back is raised and supple. Achieving that is the best feeling in the world. Use your legs to massage her barrel, to raise her back up into your seat. Do you have a dressage saddle?

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