Originally Posted by RedTree
wow that was a lot of info, but I think I got the guts of it.
I am working on getting him to work long and low, that's why I was asking this question as it has never really bothered me before, that he was horrible at circles, but now I see how everything is related and to get a well rounded and working horse he need to be pretty decent at everthing.
I am planning on getting lessons soon-ish, when I can afford it and have the money.
I think I am going to have to re read this a few times to fully understand it and remember everything
But to sum up the top section
Inside rein tight outside loose. Inside rein shift to outside slightly. Shift weight into outside leg put pressure on inside leg on the girth. To achieve long and low?
Smaller circles harder to achieve bend? But then why did you say do them?
Also because I have achieved the long and low with Buzz yet, this will take longer to achieve a 'true' circle
Haha almost there
Here: When asking for true (inside) bend on a circle (initially, in the green horse)
- Weight your INSIDE seat bone
- INSIDE leg on the girth
- Turn your shoulders to the INSIDE of the circle
- Give the OUTSIDE rein (it should not restrict the movement of the poll and neck to the inside)
- Contact on the INSIDE rein, not tight, just 'feeling' the horse's mouth. So you don't want to see any slack in the rein, but you're not pulling back on it. The only time you take up a little pressure on it is when the horse is resisting your aids to bend, in that case take up the inside rein a little more until horse gives to it.
Should have worded this one different, I said a smaller circle makes it harder for horse NOT to bend, should have said it makes it easier for the horse to bend ;)
And just to give you another aid :P
-Both knee points open and INSIDE knee point directed to inside of the circle. **** it hurts if your not used to it. But having your knees into the saddle is the equivalent of you having a clamp around your torso and being asked to move gracefully sideways or bend your body. Your movement will be stiff! By taking your inside knee right off the saddle (but don't turn out your toes :P) you are opening the horse's rib cage and making it more comfortable to bend.
Sorry for the overload of information. Even if you write out those aids and give them to a horsey friend who can come and watch you. Pick someone who has a decent eye for the horse and rider, that can yell 'shoulders' when your shoulders aren't turning for instance.
Eyes on the ground is the best way by far to do this, hell when I was first taught it my coach was constantly going 'shoulders', 'weight', 'shoulders', 'hips', 'shoulders'....
There is a lot to remember! But once you have this down pat, your horse will be following the inside rein and be far more supple. THEN and only then will you be able to start worrying about riding inside leg to outside rein, having the horse through and even on both reins.