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        05-02-2013, 10:39 AM
      #11
    Trained
    Your little Lizzy could have been good, if she would have been trained for it.
    But as long as you'll learn the basic principles, you'll help her a lot, and, subsequently, yourself
    Watch him whenever you can, and, given a chance, tell him you'd love to take lessons as soon as you can afford them.
    And ask questions. Don't ask him a hole in the belly, but a question here and there won't hurt
         
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        05-02-2013, 11:56 AM
      #12
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    Consider yourself super lucky to have this opportunity. I agree that asking the trainer what books to look at first might be a good idea. I can imagine he might be a bit intimidating, but he may also appreciate your willingness to learn, even though you havent'the money for lessons.

    I, too, think the late Reiner Klimke is a joy to watch ride on video, and his daugther, Ingrid (right?) is also a super rider.
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        05-02-2013, 12:19 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    I am super happy that we found this barn. They don't really advertise for boarding as it is mostly a training facility. His wife responded to an ad a friend of mine put out looking for boarding. We had many responses and lots that were much cheaper but we decided that we would find a way to afford this place.

    Oh my poor Lizzy she has no idea what she is in for. I will be out there tonight so if he isn't too busy I will ask him about books and such. He usually has lessons at night so he might be busy.
         
        05-02-2013, 02:09 PM
      #14
    Trained
    My personal favorite is:
    Http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Training-Principles-Classical-Horsemanship/dp/0879802359I still re-read it. It made so much sense to me when I knew nothing about Dressage.
    Ingrid has had several programs aired on RFtv's "Dressage Symposium." She continues the use of cavaletti that her father had subscribed to.
    Http://www.amazon.com/Cavalletti-Schooling-Horse-Rider-Ground/dp/0851317553My 4 cavaletti rotted out at the place I used to board. I need to build some more. They are EXCELLENT at teaching balance and confidence for ANY horse. IMHO, it's important to teach a horse to negotiate at least 18" high, even though many breeds have no scope. I've watched Ingrid in a few programs use them in a straightaway and on a curve. It also helps with hunter/jumpers bc they do best in a straight line and crossing dead center at the perpendicular. ANYTHING to throw the weight backwards without hanging on their mouths!
    It will take you some time to work through anybody's good book on the subject, so be patient with yourself, and with your horse. =D
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        05-02-2013, 02:10 PM
      #15
    Trained
    SORRY! Submitted same post twice. 'O'
    Ask your new barn friends about their favorite in hand training books, too.
         
        05-02-2013, 02:19 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
    Thank you. I will have to look those up when I get home. Work computer is hating on links today :( My horse needs quite a bit of work, I still refer to her as green, so all of this will help me with her as well as understanding more about my new barn owner.
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        05-04-2013, 11:29 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Classical Dressage is my passion. One of my two Andalusians is now in training with an outstanding classical trainer and I'm thrilled with what's being taught to him - Firstly, to RELAX, then to carry himself in the most natural way for his bred: Light and Up in the front, with lifted back and lower haunches and rear legs reaching under. This is normally an advanced dressage shape (very collected) but Andalusians have been bred for hundreds of years to carry themselves this way naturally, so they do not need to be ridden "forward and down" for several years (going against what is natural for them), before they are taught to "collect". They are more comfortable in a collected shape from the start and that is what they are encouraging my horse to do, first by a specific type of lunging, then with various riding exercises.

    Meanwhile, the trainer has encouraged me to work with my second Andalusian myself, to reteach him his own natural "collection". My second Andy is 13yo and has had quite a bit of dressage training already, and is very happy and willing, but it appears that he was trained more in the "warmblood" style and not encouraged to collect by rounding his back up and bringing his haunches under him. Warmbloods (and most modern style dressage horses) and usually not taught to truly "collect" until they are several years into their training program. This can be bad for an Andy.

    Sorry, rambling.

    If you can take advantage of the Classical training at your barn, do it. Your horse will thank you.

    If I have time tomorrow (after I get back from a Classical Dressage clinic), I'll post my favorite Classical dressage links and books.

    Classical Dressage encourages a relaxed, happy horse who is going in an easy, balanced manner.
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        05-04-2013, 11:53 PM
      #18
    Trained
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxo1...e_gdata_player
         
        05-05-2013, 09:25 AM
      #19
    Green Broke
    Thank you. I haven't had a chance to talk to him since everytime I've been there the rest of this week he was busy and I haven't run into his wife either. It's been pretty busy this week I guess. Myya if you can post some books and such I should read that would be great. And I see you are in the Midwest, mind telling me who your trainer is? Just curious is all.

    So I got a chance to watch some of the riders at the barn I work at on Saturdays and they ride quite different from those at my barn. I have no idea what "type" they train but I'm pretty sure it's not classical dressage.
         
        05-05-2013, 10:57 AM
      #20
    Trained
    First step: you see the difference!
         

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