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    12-28-2011, 03:04 PM
  #41
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
Tnavas, my instructor was studying at the Spanish Riding School as well. As well as several other known places. I still stand my original post though about the cues for the canter and that there is no real need to go into the long sitting trot to ask for the canter transition.
Firstly please tell me where I said that you need to go into a long sitting trot to ask for the canter transition? Secondly are you riding Western or English?

If? As you say that your instructor was trained at the Spanish Riding School then I am more than positive that he/she will have taught you to sit before the canter! It sounds like maybe the 'other' places have taken presedence!!

Prior to the start of the canter the horse needs to be prepared, by a half halt or two - best done in sitting trot so that you can use your legs with every step. Timing of the leg aids are also crucial - the rider needs to be able to apply the leg at the point when the outside hind leg is about to come forward - you can't do this from rising trot. A few steps in sitting trot allow the rider to prepare the horse correctly to get the best quality transition.
     
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    12-28-2011, 03:33 PM
  #42
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Originally Posted by Tnavas    
Secondly are you riding Western or English?
I didn't know Spanish Riding School teaches Western! Something new to learn!
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    12-28-2011, 03:51 PM
  #43
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I didn't know Spanish Riding School teaches Western! Something new to learn!
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit!!!

I asked purely because I am on an American site where there are many Western riders. And to clarify that we are talking the same discipline.

Whatever you are being taught - sitting trot should be part of your transition from rising trot to canter. Maybe you should check your trainers credentials!
     
    12-28-2011, 05:13 PM
  #44
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Originally Posted by Tnavas    
...Maybe you should check your trainers credentials!
Let's run the tapes:

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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
Tnavas, my instructor was studying at the Spanish Riding School as well...
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Originally Posted by Tnavas    
...Secondly are you riding Western or English?

If? As you say that your instructor was trained at the Spanish Riding School...
Surprisingly few barrel racers train at the Spanish Riding School, so an English rider is a pretty safe bet.

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Originally Posted by Tnavas    
...Prior to the start of the canter the horse needs to be prepared, by a half halt or two - best done in sitting trot so that you can use your legs with every step...
My gelding was trained on a ranch in Utah, and still refuses to canter on a right lead...but with a bit of verbal encouragement, he'll go from a walk to a canter.

It may be different for dressage, and goodness knows my gelding is NOT an example for dressage riders anywhere, other than what not to do - but it sure seems like it is getting awfully hard to do something basically simple. If you trained a horse to do so, he would enter a canter every time you tapped him on the withers. Right side of the withers = left lead. Left side = right lead. The horse would do it if trained thus. I understand that some cues are more natural than others, and I appreciate the way dressage riders seek to find the most natural, logical way to ask a horse to do something. It is admirable, and a klutz like myself riding a thoroughly poorly trained horse can benefit from the work dressage riders do...but doesn't a lot of it just depend on how the horse was trained?

And in any case, insulting instructors is neither helpful nor friendly, particularly when they are not on board to defend themselves. IMHO.
     
    12-28-2011, 05:27 PM
  #45
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Bsms - I said maybe she should CHECK her trainers credentials as anyone Spanish Riding School trained would tell a rider to sit for a few strides before cantering and that maybe the trainer didn't train at the SRS!
     
    12-28-2011, 09:18 PM
  #46
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Maybe you should check your trainers credentials!
At least I know for sure she was/is riding GP and multiple USDF medalist, as well as studied/trained in Europe (although it's been some time ago). I have no idea about your and your trainer credentials though besides what you say here (I'm NOT saying it's true, or untrue, just that people can say anything on BB). So I better stick with my own trainer (especially given a fact she can do miracles with horses and riders).
     
    12-28-2011, 09:23 PM
  #47
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that maybe the trainer didn't train at the SRS!
I never said she trained there BTW. If you re-read my posts.
     
    12-28-2011, 09:25 PM
  #48
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
At least I know for sure she was/is riding GP and multiple USDF medalist, as well as studied/trained in Europe (although it's been some time ago). I have no idea about your and your trainer credentials though besides what you say here (I'm NOT saying it's true, or untrue, just that people can say anything on BB). So I better stick with my own trainer (especially given a fact she can do miracles with horses and riders).
My trainer was Robert Hall from Fulmer in Bucks - he now lives in the US and can be found if you google him. Jennie Lorriston-Clarke, Maureen Newell once UK junior dressage selector and I ride to GP level but no longer - old age and many injuries have finally caught up with me!
     
    12-28-2011, 09:42 PM
  #49
Yearling
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
Tnavas, my instructor was studying at the Spanish Riding School as well. As well as several other known places. I still stand my original post though about the cues for the canter and that there is no real need to go into the long sitting trot to ask for the canter transition.
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
I never said she trained there BTW. If you re-read my posts.
You are contradicting yourself!!
     
    12-28-2011, 10:11 PM
  #50
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Originally Posted by Tnavas    
My trainer was Robert Hall from Fulmer in Bucks - he now lives in the US and can be found if you google him. Jennie Lorriston-Clarke, Maureen Newell once UK junior dressage selector and I ride to GP level but no longer - old age and many injuries have finally caught up with me!

Would love to see some pictures of you in competition????
     

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