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    06-17-2013, 02:43 PM
  #41
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First of all, Baucher "invented" rolkur. So unless you're a few hundred years old, yes it was around when you started riding.
Second of all, if you actually read my posts, you would know the reasons for and goals of riding deep.
There was also a biomechanics study done, and it did find increased mobility and schwung in the horses back after being ridden LDR or rolkur. And another done which showed no increased restriction of the airways between a competition frame and an LDR frame.
One of the goals of LDR is an open throatlatch. But I'm an elitist bitch so please, discount my opinions.
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    06-17-2013, 02:47 PM
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But I'm an elitist bitch so please, discount my opinions.
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    06-17-2013, 02:50 PM
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<3 you too sweetie
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    06-17-2013, 02:52 PM
  #44
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<3 you too sweetie
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Wondered if you knew what I meant xD
     
    06-17-2013, 02:57 PM
  #45
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Wondered if you knew what I meant xD
I have a quote from that movie in a freestyle!
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    06-17-2013, 03:04 PM
  #46
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Totally disregard whether you think rolkurr is good or bad and consider that its given dressage really bad press at a time when people like Karl Hester and Charlotte and many others like them are working their guts out to promote it - and in the UK to promote it as something anyone can do at lower level - because when you learn to ride in the typical European way and understand the meaning of 'on the bit' and 'collection' it really isn't that hard at that level - little kids do it.
If these people think that rolkurr exercises helps their horse in training then fine - but do it at home, not in the practice and warm up areas for all the world to see and photograph and then hold up as an example of how cruel dressage is. A competition is NOT the place to school your horse
My very average horses are all very supple and light mouthed and I could get their heads on their chests with little amount pressure in rubber bits - or even bitless so horses at this level certainly shouldn't need to be doing it 'on the day'
Not what the sport needs at all.
     
    06-17-2013, 03:05 PM
  #47
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Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
First of all, Baucher "invented" rolkur. So unless you're a few hundred years old, yes it was around when you started riding.
Second of all, if you actually read my posts, you would know the reasons for and goals of riding deep.
There was also a biomechanics study done, and it did find increased mobility and schwung in the horses back after being ridden LDR or rolkur. And another done which showed no increased restriction of the airways between a competition frame and an LDR frame.
One of the goals of LDR is an open throatlatch. But I'm an elitist bitch so please, discount my opinions.
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competition frame and Rollkur, and forwatd- downward, as the literal translation happens to be, are three totally different things.
And for Rollkur not being taught, or used, when I rode dressage....we never found it necessary. We took our time. But it might be because im from Germany and Rollkur initiated in Holland....
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    06-17-2013, 03:07 PM
  #48
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I have a quote from that movie in a freestyle!
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Pppttthhh ahaha!

I could say it outright that I mean to advocate friendly debate here and appreciate your efforts to elaborate and do your utmost best in regards, to the moment's understanding, for the welfare of horses, and with some humor let you know I've no hard feelings and rather do love ya, like I feel toward all others here. Or I could simply state that I'm partially using you as a guinea pig for the Dialectal Behavioral Therapy lessons I learned recently Either way, what a good taste in movies you have!
     
    06-17-2013, 03:10 PM
  #49
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Really? I think the opposite is ridiculous. We equestrians constantly complain about footballers calling riding easy. How is this any different? Oh wait. I forgot. Dressage is the basis for all riding and therefore must be really, really easy. Sorry I forgot that dressage is lesser than all other equestrian sport because of it's ease and the horses are constantly abused.
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I didn't say it was easy, or that everyone can do it, but people are entitled to an opinion and you don't have to ride a high level horse to be able to visually assess what does not appear to be acceptable to do to a creature.
     
    06-17-2013, 03:11 PM
  #50
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None of those pictures are from the test.
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Lol I didn't say these were from a test...I've seen the technique used in tests before.
No one is out to get dressage or riders in that discipline, hell, I want to get started in dressage.

I think everyone needs to take a much needed chill-pill-On both sides of the debate.
     

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