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    06-17-2013, 04:14 PM
  #51
Trained
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Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
competition frame and Rollkur, and forwatd- downward, as the literal translation happens to be, are three totally different things.
And for Rollkur not being taught, or used, when I rode dressage....we never found it necessary. We took our time. But it might be because im from Germany and Rollkur initiated in Holland....
Baucher was a French man I do believe.


I'm sorry, I school my horses and train them every day, regardless of if I am at a competition or not. Train for tomorrow, ride for tomorrow.
If we all just hopped on and piaffed, passaged and pirouetted our way through warm ups, there would be no sound dressage horses. People harp on the dutch but who it the world's top rider right now? And Anky has had no issues keeping bonfire and others competitive internationally into their teens. If it's not jealousy than what is it? Because there is a clear inability to see facts on one side of this discussion. I don't idolize the dutch way of training but for some horses it works, and that is an indisputable fact.
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    06-17-2013, 04:17 PM
  #52
Banned
I like this simplified explanation of Rollkur......and quite honestly has anyone seen those little gymnasts with their coach stretching their legs and folding them up like laundry???? I guess that would be considered the 'rollkur' of gymnasts hey? I'm surprised their parents haven't been screaming bloody murder about it.......

I have no problem with someone who knows what they're doing using it for schooling, and horses DO sometimes (most times) need a little schooling at shows......I'd love to be one of those people who goes to a show and doesn't have to school in the warm up pen....


     
    06-17-2013, 04:18 PM
  #53
Foal
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Originally Posted by xlionesss    
I think everyone needs to take a much needed chill-pill-On all sides of the debate.
Yuss.



Look at this filly. This is a cute freakin' filly. What do you do when you don't have a conch shell? Listen to a hoof. If you listen long enough, you'll hear a drumming, throbbing noise...
     
    06-17-2013, 04:23 PM
  #54
Trained
She might, yes.
I think the main problem isn't Rollkur in itself. I think, as I stated, and jaydee also, it's the fact that it has to be used in the warm up ring of national championships. Not only a sign of lack of training, but it also gives an excuse to all the people without background to use it, use it wrong, and unnecessarily, on their horses, just because Anky " does it all the time".
Any equestrian sport has its tricks and gimmicks, I'm sure. It all comes down to keeping it a secret. Unfortunately.
     
    06-17-2013, 04:29 PM
  #55
Trained
Lack of training? LOL that is a joke, right?
That right there, to me is proof of your ignorance. Dressage horses should always be poll highest and otherwise they are badly trained. Yup, hit the nail on the head. Good job, go start teaching the world your wisdom. I'm sure Stephen Peters and Jan Ebeling will be in the line for your dressage clinics where you read from Googling "dressage quotes".

Also, on the Anky quip, she does not put horses in clinics or in lessons LDR. Have you actually seen her train with your two eyes, or you just base your opinion off Google's "anky warm up" photos?
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    06-17-2013, 04:36 PM
  #56
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Originally Posted by TerciopeladoCaballo    
Yuss.



Look at this filly. This is a cute freakin' filly. What do you do when you don't have a conch shell? Listen to a hoof. If you listen long enough, you'll hear a drumming, throbbing noise...


Umm...I think it makes it that much more amazing that she's an APPYYYY!!

I'm not going to lie, your post had me laughing for a good 3 minutes
     
    06-17-2013, 04:37 PM
  #57
Trained
My dear anebel...don't assume anything. And stop the belittling. Or I'll start.
I tried to keep it civil. Not possible.
See, that's exactly why I hate dressage now. For this attitude and for people who think they know it all.
I'll go on forgetting already what you have yet to learn.
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    06-17-2013, 04:37 PM
  #58
Foal
Well, that's disappointing. I Googled "dressage quotes" and I got a tumblr page, then I Googled "anky warm up" and got an image of an Ankylosaurus.
So I typed in dressage . Com in the browser and got some nifty pictures of the Spanish Riding School horses doing airs above ground. Ho hum.
     
    06-17-2013, 04:41 PM
  #59
Trained
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Originally Posted by TerciopeladoCaballo    
Well, that's disappointing. I Googled "dressage quotes" and I got a tumblr page, then I Googled "anky warm up" and got an image of an Ankylosaurus.
So I typed in dressage . Com in the browser and got some nifty pictures of the Spanish Riding School horses doing airs above ground. Ho hum.
Tercio, you rock!
     
    06-17-2013, 04:42 PM
  #60
Foal
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Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
My dear anebel...don't assume anything. And stop the belittling. Or I'll start.
I tried to keep it civil. Not possible.
See, that's exactly why I hate dressage now. For this attitude and for people who think they know it all.
I'll go on forgetting already what you have yet to learn.
Now, now, don't lose civility and hope. The way the hierarchy works in some areas of judge-based riding, it's like a bird perch. Look down, see a bunch of sh** heads, look up and see a-holes.
     

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