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post #21 of 102 Old 08-04-2012, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tinyliny View Post
nice video. great that she gives such good videos out for free.
Yes, she is very interested in helping people as much as she can. I think she is a superb teacher.

If you go to YouTube and plug in Jane Savoie, you will see the list of videos she has shared for help on anything from contact to straightness, leg-yields, shoulder-in, to help with flying changes and piaffe.
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post #22 of 102 Old 08-04-2012, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Weezilla View Post
Hi again! I must give you huge props for your bravery in posting your vids for strangers to critique. What a true commitment to your chosen sport!
Wow, he is a cutie pie! My first impression is that you have lovely posture, and looong legs! As far as your size, I'm also a woman of substance, and it didnt stop me from showing at Gladstone and Devon.
But maybe your saddle isn't doing you any favors, causing you to sit in a bit of a chair seat, with your legs more forward than what would be most ideal and effective, and causing you to land more heavily in the saddle than what is ideal. ( now you'll say that youre a longtime chairseater, and this is the best you've felt...ok, we can work with that too!) How do you think Cinny goes in this saddle?

Barring needing a new saddle, try to sit more on your seatbones than your buttocks, and at the halt, pull your leg away from your horse's side by grabbing the back of your thighs (hamstring) and pulling out and away, getting your knees to face forwards, thus getting your leg more underneath you. Also, a seat riser might help you sit more balanced, as long as it doesn't mess up the saddle fit.
More later.

Agree with this :) Your leg is a little too far forward (just a little), but enough to put you off balance and not giving you an independant seat and you look squashed into the saddle which might be a bit far forward.

I would also suggest that you need to learn a soft consistent and gentle contact and then your horse will soften into a lovely outline, he looks like he has a very soft mouth and any unsteadiness will result in a reaction in his head. Once you have an independant seat then your hands can be still and you can work on a gentle contact.

I also think such a dusty environment wont be helping him keep his head still.

(...and please don't take offense but please wear a helmet )
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post #23 of 102 Old 08-04-2012, 03:19 PM
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Lovely horse, but what I see is a rider practicing her riding, getting exercise, so to speak. Nothing wrong with that, but if you want your horse to improve, you really can't leave it all to him.

Your horse doesn't look too comfortable. I'd like to see you attempt to get a steadier contact with his mouth, not let him simply toss it around.

Someone posted this link earlier, and I think it's great. Please watch at least the first 3 minutes.

I would also prefer you rode with a helmet.
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post #24 of 102 Old 08-04-2012, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinnys Whinny View Post
I do tend to get a bit cocky when I believe myself and my horse are going better than he actually is.
You and everyone else who rides!
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post #25 of 102 Old 08-05-2012, 10:22 AM Thread Starter
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I have a question, and I don't mean to sound flippant or anything, just asking but...

How does a person keep good contact and quiet hands when their horse isn't steady with their head and/or tosses it etc? If your hands are supposed to move with the horse's head, and that horse moves it's head a LOT, then wouldn't it come to pass that it would appear that the rider didn't have quiet hands?
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post #26 of 102 Old 08-05-2012, 10:28 AM
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Hi. First let me ask,did you watch the vid about contact? The second one I posted?
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post #27 of 102 Old 08-05-2012, 10:36 AM
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Cinny is not steady with his head yet, because he hasn't figured out how to use his neck & shoulders to balance. When he figures that out, with help from your leg & seat, he will come to your hands, don't babysit him, he doesn't need it.
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CW, I want to be sure you saw the second video before going on, since it not only addresses you question, but also your primary issues. Then we can all help answer your Q's.
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post #29 of 102 Old 08-05-2012, 11:21 AM
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Great advice given here, and once again I'd like to give Weezilla a pat on the back.
What I see is too much focus on "head down" and not enough concern for hind end engagement and bend. Those two things must happen before Cinny can even think about where his head should be. It takes time. You need to relax and find your center, and learn how to have independent hand, seat and leg aids.
I do see improvement from videos past; he's not nearly as "angry" looking and has quit grinding as much. He looks a little more relaxed. Have you had a professional saddle fitter out for both yourself and him? I'm not sure that saddle may be the best for either of you.
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post #30 of 102 Old 08-05-2012, 12:41 PM Thread Starter
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I have watched those videos many times before this but thank you for posting them.

I don't concentrate at all on cinnys head,where it is,etc. I am not sure why people keep saying I do, but I never have so far.

I still don't see an answer to my question about do you keep them quiet, still whatever if you allow them to gently follow a horse who is not steady in his head? I gently follow cinny as best I can,yet people tell me my hands need to be quieter. If I held them steady and quiet and he keeps moving his head like that he will keep getting jabbed.... so maybe I just don't understand.
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