For discussion. Transitions-A methodical, systematic approach to training. - The Horse Forum
 2Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 22 Old 12-28-2011, 06:39 PM Thread Starter
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,526
• Horses: 0
For discussion. Transitions-A methodical, systematic approach to training.

The title is taken from this video but thought that it would be a good topic ( saw somewhat the same on another forum)


This also is a very good video to watch...


So the question topic area is the usefulness of transitions in the training of the horse and discussion on what constitutes a good transition.
Spyder is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 22 Old 12-28-2011, 11:04 PM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 635
• Horses: 0
I'll play!

A Transition use: to help build muscles that will in turn help the horse to carry himself and engage the hind end more effectively.

Component of a good transition: immediate response - as in, no running steps to move up or down in transition.
Shasta1981 is offline  
post #3 of 22 Old 12-28-2011, 11:11 PM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ~*~ NEBRASKA ~*~
Posts: 4,367
• Horses: 5
OH, another Spyder topic..... pulls chair up, puts on thinking cap and is now ready to learn something awesome. :)
Cinnys Whinny is offline  
post #4 of 22 Old 12-28-2011, 11:12 PM Thread Starter
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,526
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasta1981 View Post
I'll play!

A Transition use: to help build muscles that will in turn help the horse to carry himself and engage the hind end more effectively.

Component of a good transition: immediate response - as in, no running steps to move up or down in transition.

No one is going to say you are wrong and only this way is how you do it so can you expend on various things like correcting transitions that are not good and say what you would consider a bad transition...post any videos (youtube..or personal) that you wish.

This is a discussion thread only and maybe if someone posts about transition problems elsewhere on the forum, we can use this as a reference thread.
Spyder is offline  
post #5 of 22 Old 12-28-2011, 11:39 PM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 635
• Horses: 0
Sure- so ill go with the same issue, running steps into, let's say, a canter from a trot. To correct, you can use a well-timed half halt to get the balance back under the haunches and to let them know that something is going to change.

You want us to find videos of good transitions or bad ones or just anything pertinent?
Shasta1981 is offline  
post #6 of 22 Old 12-29-2011, 12:08 AM Thread Starter
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,526
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasta1981 View Post
Sure- so ill go with the same issue, running steps into, let's say, a canter from a trot. To correct, you can use a well-timed half halt to get the balance back under the haunches and to let them know that something is going to change.

You want us to find videos of good transitions or bad ones or just anything pertinent?

I want this to be a free ( no holds barred...LOL), discuss anything relating to training where the use of ...the failure of good transitions help/hinder the process of further training.

Including any questions anyone can answer.

The more detail you can go into the process of making them better ( this includes transitions within the gait)..so balance will also be an issue to discuss.

Pull up a youtube video and say what you like or don't and what you would do to make better if you wish.
Spyder is offline  
post #7 of 22 Old 12-29-2011, 10:20 AM
Showing
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: MD
Posts: 23,907
• Horses: 2
I don't have sound this week at home, so I'll have to pass on videos at the moment.

For me the transitions help a lot with bringing horse off-forehand IF done correctly. Especially trot - canter one. It's been a real challenge for my qh because of her build, and it takes lots of effort and time to make the transitions "clean". The worst one so far is trot - walk (lacking the impulsion sometime even with the leg on). Halt - trot and walk - trot seem to be the easiest ones. But, yeah, the transition should be clean. If my walk - trot one doesn't go well I move horse back to walk and ask again (although I don't have to do it often now). Same with canter: if it goes off the bit, raising head, etc. I move her back to the nice balanced trot and ask again right away.

"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass: it's about learning to dance in the rain..."

"When we are no longer able to change a situation - we are challenged to change ourselves."

"How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours."
kitten_Val is offline  
post #8 of 22 Old 12-29-2011, 10:25 AM Thread Starter
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,526
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by kitten_Val View Post
The worst one so far is trot - walk (lacking the impulsion sometime even with the leg on). .

Try this exercise..

Trot...then put the horse into a bit of a leg yield and ask for the walk while in the leg yield...go forward maybe 2-3 steps then trot.
Kayty likes this.
Spyder is offline  
post #9 of 22 Old 12-29-2011, 10:28 AM
Showing
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: MD
Posts: 23,907
• Horses: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyder View Post
Try this exercise..

Trot...then put the horse into a bit of a leg yield and ask for the walk while in the leg yield...go forward maybe 2-3 steps then trot.
Interesting. Will give it a try today. Thanks!

To the discussion about rising vs sitting trot, leg yield is a pain in butt to do from rising (at least for me).

"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass: it's about learning to dance in the rain..."

"When we are no longer able to change a situation - we are challenged to change ourselves."

"How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours."
kitten_Val is offline  
post #10 of 22 Old 12-29-2011, 10:51 AM
Trained
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Germany- but not German =D
Posts: 5,127
• Horses: 2
When I first started to get Duffy to do trot/canter transitions it was super duper. Canter was rubbish, but the transition UP was fine, coming back down, she would run away from me. How would I train this out of her effectively? We've done canter to walk transitions and she work's really well at them, precise, to the point, and no jogging steps and straight in to a nice medium/working walk. After a few of those, canter to trot are fine.

Is it a hole in her training, or is it something I need to be stronger with ie core muscles, a better half halt etc?
DuffyDuck is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Two training questions for discussion New_image Horse Training 9 10-22-2010 11:48 PM
how should i approach someone? katieandduke General Off Topic Discussion 15 09-05-2010 03:29 PM
Jump Approach XxXequinegrlXxX Horse Riding Critique 15 04-19-2009 10:03 PM
Training programs _ FRIENDLY DISCUSSION farmpony84 Horse Training 5 06-05-2008 07:00 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome