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    12-28-2011, 06:39 PM
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For discussion. Transitions-A methodical, systematic approach to training.

The title is taken from this video but thought that it would be a good topic ( saw somewhat the same on another forum)


This also is a very good video to watch...


So the question topic area is the usefulness of transitions in the training of the horse and discussion on what constitutes a good transition.
     
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    12-28-2011, 11:04 PM
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Weanling
I'll play!

A Transition use: to help build muscles that will in turn help the horse to carry himself and engage the hind end more effectively.

Component of a good transition: immediate response - as in, no running steps to move up or down in transition.
     
    12-28-2011, 11:11 PM
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Green Broke
OH, another Spyder topic..... pulls chair up, puts on thinking cap and is now ready to learn something awesome. :)
     
    12-28-2011, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Shasta1981    
I'll play!

A Transition use: to help build muscles that will in turn help the horse to carry himself and engage the hind end more effectively.

Component of a good transition: immediate response - as in, no running steps to move up or down in transition.

No one is going to say you are wrong and only this way is how you do it so can you expend on various things like correcting transitions that are not good and say what you would consider a bad transition...post any videos (youtube..or personal) that you wish.

This is a discussion thread only and maybe if someone posts about transition problems elsewhere on the forum, we can use this as a reference thread.
     
    12-28-2011, 11:39 PM
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Weanling
Sure- so ill go with the same issue, running steps into, let's say, a canter from a trot. To correct, you can use a well-timed half halt to get the balance back under the haunches and to let them know that something is going to change.

You want us to find videos of good transitions or bad ones or just anything pertinent?
     
    12-29-2011, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Shasta1981    
Sure- so ill go with the same issue, running steps into, let's say, a canter from a trot. To correct, you can use a well-timed half halt to get the balance back under the haunches and to let them know that something is going to change.

You want us to find videos of good transitions or bad ones or just anything pertinent?

I want this to be a free ( no holds barred...LOL), discuss anything relating to training where the use of ...the failure of good transitions help/hinder the process of further training.

Including any questions anyone can answer.

The more detail you can go into the process of making them better ( this includes transitions within the gait)..so balance will also be an issue to discuss.

Pull up a youtube video and say what you like or don't and what you would do to make better if you wish.
     
    12-29-2011, 10:20 AM
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I don't have sound this week at home, so I'll have to pass on videos at the moment.

For me the transitions help a lot with bringing horse off-forehand IF done correctly. Especially trot - canter one. It's been a real challenge for my qh because of her build, and it takes lots of effort and time to make the transitions "clean". The worst one so far is trot - walk (lacking the impulsion sometime even with the leg on). Halt - trot and walk - trot seem to be the easiest ones. But, yeah, the transition should be clean. If my walk - trot one doesn't go well I move horse back to walk and ask again (although I don't have to do it often now). Same with canter: if it goes off the bit, raising head, etc. I move her back to the nice balanced trot and ask again right away.
     
    12-29-2011, 10:25 AM
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The worst one so far is trot - walk (lacking the impulsion sometime even with the leg on). .

Try this exercise..

Trot...then put the horse into a bit of a leg yield and ask for the walk while in the leg yield...go forward maybe 2-3 steps then trot.
Kayty likes this.
     
    12-29-2011, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Spyder    
Try this exercise..

Trot...then put the horse into a bit of a leg yield and ask for the walk while in the leg yield...go forward maybe 2-3 steps then trot.
Interesting. Will give it a try today. Thanks!

To the discussion about rising vs sitting trot, leg yield is a pain in butt to do from rising (at least for me).
     
    12-29-2011, 10:51 AM
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Green Broke
When I first started to get Duffy to do trot/canter transitions it was super duper. Canter was rubbish, but the transition UP was fine, coming back down, she would run away from me. How would I train this out of her effectively? We've done canter to walk transitions and she work's really well at them, precise, to the point, and no jogging steps and straight in to a nice medium/working walk. After a few of those, canter to trot are fine.

Is it a hole in her training, or is it something I need to be stronger with ie core muscles, a better half halt etc?
     

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