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post #1 of 33 Old 02-06-2011, 07:16 AM Thread Starter
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Cool Do I "have" to have a flash on my bridle?

I have recently changed trainers and my previous trainer had me using a flash on Cinny, and pretty tight too. He always gritted his teeth and did a little bit of head tossing but I thought it was because he was green. I recently moved to a new stable and have a new trainer. While getting ready for my first lesson with her I realized that when I cleaned my bridle I had left the flash at home. She said "why not go without one today."

Cinny was brilliant...he relaxed so much, barely ground his teeth, barely tossed his head and settled into work immediately where he normally takes at least 20 minutes to settle down. My trainer said that maybe he just relaxes more without a flash. The next day I had my flash and I also had teeth gritting and head tossing. I'm going to try a few more rides without it again.

Now I am new to dressage so please bare with me if this is a stupid question...do you have to have a flash in the show ring? Is there any reason I should continue riding with a flash?
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post #2 of 33 Old 02-06-2011, 07:33 AM
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Most people in the show ring ride with cavesson nosebands. I don't really know of any that use flashes.
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post #3 of 33 Old 02-06-2011, 08:43 AM
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A flash is not required in the show ring for dressage as far as I know...at least not at the lower levels not sure about higher. My horse also relaxes more without one so I don't use one either.
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post #4 of 33 Old 02-06-2011, 08:59 AM
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If you don't need one, then don't use one :)

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A high percentage of lower level people use the flash in NA but there is no requirement to use it.

I never used it on my present horse as he never tried to evade the bit or open his mouth.

It can be useful for horses that open their mouths, or evade the bit and it does (if fitted correctly) keep the bit from moving out of place but in truth, if you don't need it don't use it.
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post #6 of 33 Old 02-07-2011, 07:42 AM
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Your old trainer sounds like the one I used couple years ago for couple months (recommended to me). Same thing: get a flash because its a must (I never did, which drove her bananas ), your bit is not gentle enough ($$ KK ultra oval mouth! ), lunge in side reins, eta-eta-eta...

I ride without one and plan to show without one...
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post #7 of 33 Old 02-07-2011, 08:11 AM
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No, a flash is not required. Although some form of noseband is required. You could also try loosening the flash a bit, and see if he does any better. Also, a drop noseband may do wonders with him. However, if the horse doesn't have a problem-don't fix it. Most nosebands are to fix most of the same things. The horse opening their mouth, trying to get their tongue over the bit, and crossing their jaw. If the horse has none of these problems just use a regular cavesson noseband. Actually, so many people use flashes for dressage these days, but it was originally made for jumping. So that the rider could have a martingale attach to the normal noseband, but then it had the flash for horses that needed it.

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I am going to go without it for a while and see what my new trainer thinks. I like her because she goes with the saying "less is more." She had decided Cin no longer needs to be lunged with side reins...the reason my old trainer did that was for "bitting" which Cin sorely needed and she kept them to "form his neck." New trainer says he goes on the bit fine now, take them off. She does not like what she calls "gadgets" and builds her training on teaching proper communication between horse and rider...not just the rider communicating but learning how your horse is communicating with you. I really like her. We both agree that Cinny has a LOT to say.

Thank you so much everybody for your help :)
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I think it depends on whom you're affiliated with, but AFAIK you're only supposed to use a cavesson noseband for Dressage...

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I am going to go without it for a while and see what my new trainer thinks. I like her because she goes with the saying "less is more." She had decided Cin no longer needs to be lunged with side reins...the reason my old trainer did that was for "bitting" which Cin sorely needed and she kept them to "form his neck." New trainer says he goes on the bit fine now, take them off. She does not like what she calls "gadgets" and builds her training on teaching proper communication between horse and rider...not just the rider communicating but learning how your horse is communicating with you. I really like her. We both agree that Cinny has a LOT to say.

Thank you so much everybody for your help :)
I'm glad you found someone who works well with you AND your horse. It sounds to me like your old instructor was more of a modern rider, whereas you current trainer is more of a classical dressager.

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