Downward transition on a youngster.. - The Horse Forum
 1Likes
  • 1 Post By MysterySparrow
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 10 Old 10-20-2012, 02:55 PM Thread Starter
Trained
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Germany- but not German =D
Posts: 5,144
• Horses: 2
Downward transition on a youngster..

Okay so my boy is a superstar- really. I love him to pieces. No one believes me when I say he is 3,5 because he's just so chilled.

Since moving yards, and having a new, interested and active trainer, we have restarted our training programme. No more is he asked to come up and up in to a round position and hold it, but be allowed to swing his back and move freely, and also trot him at a 'natural' pace, rather than pushing him to run and run all the time!

I do have on slight issue though.

On any downwards transition, he takes it too far! On the lunge, he is brilliant, so I have tried to use my voice too, but to the same ending under saddle. From trot to walk, he will halt. Now the first time was funny, but now as soon as I ask for walk (sit deep, legs on, rein ALWAYS fore) he does it straight away, but halts. No walk. Just HALT. My trainer is going to have another sit on him etc, but right now I would like some help for when I work on my own.

It has got to the point where he has jarred my back and I am feeling pretty stiff afterwards!

I have tried carrying a whip, just carry it. OH MY. Well he trotted like a GP horse and stopping was.. interesting, but exactly the same results.

Trainer said that it is something he has learned, and something he must un-learn but any tips are greatly appreciated!
DuffyDuck is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 Old 10-20-2012, 03:09 PM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Some times Llanelian - North wales, sometimes Hull in East Yorkshire (UK)
Posts: 3,679
• Horses: 5
Have you tried in on the long riens rather than the lunge? If so does he do the same? You may be able to get after him more

I'm currently having the opposite issues with Reeco. Getting him to stand is becomming more and more difficult, he loves doing his big expressive trot, getting him to walk is hard enough (weve had several displays of passage and piaffe because I wouldnt let him trot) but stand just isnt happening.

RIDE your horse FORWARDS and keep him STRAIGHT

faye is offline  
post #3 of 10 Old 10-20-2012, 03:21 PM Thread Starter
Trained
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Germany- but not German =D
Posts: 5,144
• Horses: 2
Long rein? As in two lunge lines?

Its not something I have ever seen out here, so never done it with him! I could try.. if he takes to it like he does with everything else should be no issue lol!

Today was the first day he tried being a bit cheeky with me, but we're tryign to cut out the lunging before riding, and today he had five minutes walk, three rounds in trot, then riding in a walk to warm up.

Glad to hear Reeco is feeling better though :P
DuffyDuck is offline  
post #4 of 10 Old 10-20-2012, 03:25 PM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Some times Llanelian - North wales, sometimes Hull in East Yorkshire (UK)
Posts: 3,679
• Horses: 5
yep 2 lines, it mean that you can get the second line right up his bum and keep him forwards much better than lunging

RIDE your horse FORWARDS and keep him STRAIGHT

faye is offline  
post #5 of 10 Old 10-20-2012, 03:30 PM Thread Starter
Trained
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Germany- but not German =D
Posts: 5,144
• Horses: 2
Will speak to my tainer.. will give us something else to learn!! First hack tomorrow :3
Posted via Mobile Device
DuffyDuck is offline  
post #6 of 10 Old 10-20-2012, 03:32 PM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 706
• Horses: 17
try a lesser bit pressure than when you use for a halt...

I personally when I want my horses to slow down just give a small quick tug.. and when I want a halt a more direct continuing pressure until I get the halt.


So to slow down from one gait to another it is more like a pulse on the reins
GhostwindAppaloosa is offline  
post #7 of 10 Old 10-20-2012, 03:42 PM Thread Starter
Trained
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Germany- but not German =D
Posts: 5,144
• Horses: 2
Tried and tested my friend ;) it is literally the barest of aifs, leg stays on and the wee ass just stops. Forgot to add saddle etc is all fine... he just wants to be a western horse!
Posted via Mobile Device
DuffyDuck is offline  
post #8 of 10 Old 10-20-2012, 10:07 PM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NC
Posts: 482
• Horses: 0
I will try to explain what I did with my horse that did this a few years ago. I would set up my body to ask for the down transition, sit deep, take a deep breath and let it out, put my leg on and when I felt him respond, I immediately started to squeeze-squeeze-squeeze alternating my legs in the rhythm of the walk I wanted.

Now I also ride with a whip religiously, so I had that to tickle him with too. I would try to do some in hand work with the whip help where your hand would be when you ride to try to desensitize him to it a bit.
EvilHorseOfDoom likes this.
MysterySparrow is offline  
post #9 of 10 Old 10-21-2012, 01:42 PM Thread Starter
Trained
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Germany- but not German =D
Posts: 5,144
• Horses: 2
Thanks for the hints! I do need to get him used to a whip if he is going to be a dressage horse hahaha, I have a lesson tomorrow so will see how it goes!!
DuffyDuck is offline  
post #10 of 10 Old 10-25-2012, 04:08 PM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 688
• Horses: 2
When you ask for the walk the milli-second you feel him do the sit for a halt SOFTEN the reins - don't throw away just soften. Don't use legs and seat unless you need to push him a bit. Boy is just trying to be compliant. So this is a simple adjustment - you may have to give just a light squeeze as you ask for the downward transition so he doesn't dump on his forehand then follow with a long HH to get transition without the forehand issue (he may be dumping on his forehand).

Dressage is for Trainers!
Valentina is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Downward Transition from Lope to Trot is VERY rough! HighonEquine Horse Training 8 09-21-2012 10:33 AM
Downward transitions....I'm struggling a bit Heelsdown Horse Riding 12 09-18-2011 08:12 PM
Hooray for downward transitions!! Citrus Horse Training 0 04-11-2011 03:16 PM
Downward transitions..(i hate them) Starlite Dressage 7 03-23-2011 08:37 AM
This is a never ending downward spiral. eventerwannabe Horse Talk 14 02-23-2010 12:11 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome