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    10-20-2012, 03:55 PM
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Green Broke
Downward transition on a youngster..

Okay so my boy is a superstar- really. I love him to pieces. No one believes me when I say he is 3,5 because he's just so chilled.

Since moving yards, and having a new, interested and active trainer, we have restarted our training programme. No more is he asked to come up and up in to a round position and hold it, but be allowed to swing his back and move freely, and also trot him at a 'natural' pace, rather than pushing him to run and run all the time!

I do have on slight issue though.

On any downwards transition, he takes it too far! On the lunge, he is brilliant, so I have tried to use my voice too, but to the same ending under saddle. From trot to walk, he will halt. Now the first time was funny, but now as soon as I ask for walk (sit deep, legs on, rein ALWAYS fore) he does it straight away, but halts. No walk. Just HALT. My trainer is going to have another sit on him etc, but right now I would like some help for when I work on my own.

It has got to the point where he has jarred my back and I am feeling pretty stiff afterwards!

I have tried carrying a whip, just carry it. OH MY. Well he trotted like a GP horse and stopping was.. interesting, but exactly the same results.

Trainer said that it is something he has learned, and something he must un-learn but any tips are greatly appreciated!
     
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    10-20-2012, 04:09 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Have you tried in on the long riens rather than the lunge? If so does he do the same? You may be able to get after him more

I'm currently having the opposite issues with Reeco. Getting him to stand is becomming more and more difficult, he loves doing his big expressive trot, getting him to walk is hard enough (weve had several displays of passage and piaffe because I wouldnt let him trot) but stand just isnt happening.
     
    10-20-2012, 04:21 PM
  #3
Green Broke
Long rein? As in two lunge lines?

Its not something I have ever seen out here, so never done it with him! I could try.. if he takes to it like he does with everything else should be no issue lol!

Today was the first day he tried being a bit cheeky with me, but we're tryign to cut out the lunging before riding, and today he had five minutes walk, three rounds in trot, then riding in a walk to warm up.

Glad to hear Reeco is feeling better though :P
     
    10-20-2012, 04:25 PM
  #4
Green Broke
Yep 2 lines, it mean that you can get the second line right up his bum and keep him forwards much better than lunging
     
    10-20-2012, 04:30 PM
  #5
Green Broke
Will speak to my tainer.. will give us something else to learn!! First hack tomorrow :3
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    10-20-2012, 04:32 PM
  #6
Weanling
Try a lesser bit pressure than when you use for a halt...

I personally when I want my horses to slow down just give a small quick tug.. and when I want a halt a more direct continuing pressure until I get the halt.


So to slow down from one gait to another it is more like a pulse on the reins
     
    10-20-2012, 04:42 PM
  #7
Green Broke
Tried and tested my friend ;) it is literally the barest of aifs, leg stays on and the wee ass just stops. Forgot to add saddle etc is all fine... he just wants to be a western horse!
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    10-20-2012, 11:07 PM
  #8
Weanling
I will try to explain what I did with my horse that did this a few years ago. I would set up my body to ask for the down transition, sit deep, take a deep breath and let it out, put my leg on and when I felt him respond, I immediately started to squeeze-squeeze-squeeze alternating my legs in the rhythm of the walk I wanted.

Now I also ride with a whip religiously, so I had that to tickle him with too. I would try to do some in hand work with the whip help where your hand would be when you ride to try to desensitize him to it a bit.
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    10-21-2012, 02:42 PM
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Green Broke
Thanks for the hints! I do need to get him used to a whip if he is going to be a dressage horse hahaha, I have a lesson tomorrow so will see how it goes!!
     
    10-25-2012, 05:08 PM
  #10
Weanling
When you ask for the walk the milli-second you feel him do the sit for a halt SOFTEN the reins - don't throw away just soften. Don't use legs and seat unless you need to push him a bit. Boy is just trying to be compliant. So this is a simple adjustment - you may have to give just a light squeeze as you ask for the downward transition so he doesn't dump on his forehand then follow with a long HH to get transition without the forehand issue (he may be dumping on his forehand).
     

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