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post #31 of 44 Old 08-19-2010, 08:20 PM Thread Starter
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Ok so last night was pouring with rain and grey and gross so if the grey but dry skies that are here now stay here I'll video tonight. Mind you, we will just be in the paddock; no arena or letters. And possibly my dog. Also, update! I may put Angel in foal this season (to stop another big debate, yes she is a good breeding prospect), to a palomino Quarter Horse stallion. Thing is, I want a big and slightly stocky foal. Angel is 17.1hh and the stallion I believe is about 16hh but I haven't seen him close up in real life yet. What do you think are the odds of getting a big foal?

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post #32 of 44 Old 08-19-2010, 08:45 PM
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What do you want the foal for? Are you looking for a performance prospect? If so, skip the QH and use a WB or possibly CB stallion. Who owns the QH stally? If it's a Jezu Park one, they are very nice, but I wouldn't put them over a big tb mare for an english performance prospect.
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What's a CB? Cold blood? Like draft? Yes, I want (hopefully!) an eventer. No, he isn't at Jezu Park, he is just up the road from me. The place doesn't have a name but my next-door neighbour recommended him.

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Also, update! I may put Angel in foal this season (to stop another big debate, yes she is a good breeding prospect), to a palomino Quarter Horse stallion. Thing is, I want a big and slightly stocky foal. Angel is 17.1hh and the stallion I believe is about 16hh but I haven't seen him close up in real life yet. What do you think are the odds of getting a big foal?

It is when I see posts like this especially after the first post on this thread that make me wonder why one gets upset when they are criticized. For it comes across to me as someone that can't make up their mind and have too many pots on the stove, or at least too many dream pots on the dream stove.

Take it from someone that had the same dream as you seemed to have...unless you focus all your energy towards one goal, it won't happen.
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post #35 of 44 Old 08-19-2010, 09:09 PM
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It is when I see posts like this especially after the first post on this thread that make me wonder why one gets upset when they are criticized. For it comes across to me as someone that can't make up their mind and have too many pots on the stove, or at least too many dream pots on the dream stove.

Take it from someone that had the same dream as you seemed to have...unless you focus all your energy towards one goal, it won't happen.
Behind you 100% Spyder.
It's great that you want to be so successful, but telling me that you want to go to the Olympics on this horse for showjumping/eventing, but also want to ride Grand Prix dressage at a competitive level at the same time... and now wanting to put her in foal... you have to take your pick.

As for the QH for an eventing prospect, don't just chuck him over your mare because someone said he's nice. I think you are underestimating all parts of the horse industry again. Just have a look at the breeding subforum, to find reasons as to why NOT to breed 'just because'. Like I said to you earlier, don't just pack it in when the going gets tough. I have a suspicion that you want to put her in foal because she's making life hard for you at the moment. Why not concentrate on your other two? You said one was your second choice for the Olympics? So why not concentrate on getting him going?

A CB is a clevland bay, depending on the size and type of your mare, they can produce some wonderful eventing horses over tb mares.
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post #36 of 44 Old 08-19-2010, 10:30 PM Thread Starter
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My next door neighbour breeds Quarter and Australian stock horses. If she recommends a stallion, he's very much a good one. I'm not breeding her just because, I am breeding her because A) I have the opportunity and B) I am going to work on my second choice while she is pregnant and bring her back into work after the foal. Rogue, the second choice, will be my horse for my lesson tonight.

I haven't heard of any Cleveland Bays in Australia, let alone for stud. I thought they were exculsively English. I am considered looking for a Holsteiner stallion.

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post #37 of 44 Old 08-19-2010, 10:38 PM
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What happened to using your mare for Grand Prix? That is a huge about-face in less than 48 hours!!

Spyder is right, in order to do any of the aforementioned goals you really need to focus on one main goal. On the other hand, there is no shame in doing dressage to the best of your ability without making it to Grand Prix, there are precious few that make it that far.

As for size of a foal, it is hard to estimate the chances of it being big. There are no guarantees with size, especially with a first foal.

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I know of 2 south australian CB studs off the top of my head, one of which has 3 STUNNING CB stallions.

You're reasons given for breeding her classify very much as 'just because'. I've had plenty of opportunities to breed, but in each case decided against it because of the expenses and risk involved, and because I feel another horse does not need to be introduced into the world. And I was going to be using well known, and imported hannoverian stallions over a quality mare.

This thread is getting very frustrating and simply going in circles while you try to come up with excuse after excuse trying to back pedal what you've said.
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If you really want to ride GP some day
1.) Do NOT breed this mare. AT current prices spend 8-20K on a baby that is bred for dressage
2.) Do not purchase a baby until you can ride the current horse in a recognized dressage show at First Level and score at least 65%.
3.) Take lessons with several different trainers around the area. I know my GP trainer could get your horse "on the bit" with 10 minutes. It would NOT be consistent and wouldn't last long but could be done. So find someone who knows how to ride correctly and can show you how to use your legs to drive the horse into correct rein contact to get her "on the bit". You NEVER go to reins first. Looking at the dressage training scale for help. Start with a FORWARD, relaxed (head up is NOT relaxed), swinging, rythmical (i.e. Consistent beat) gait before you even start on any "tricks".

Of course if you're rich buy a GP horse and take lessons.

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