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post #41 of 45 Old 04-08-2012, 06:14 AM
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Did no one really notice my p*ss take, suggesting I should use my horse for reining?

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post #42 of 45 Old 04-08-2012, 11:54 AM
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Did no one really notice my p*ss take, suggesting I should use my horse for reining?

Hahaha I got it don't worry!!

I remember according to a certain "conformation expert" that waltzed onto this forum a while ago that a barrel racer (Bones who belongs to bubba13) is apparently better conformed for dressage than my PSG/I1 horse hahaha. She thought it was equally as comical :P

I think we all know my take on the whole thing, and it is pretty much exactly what Kayty has said.

Anything, really, can do a basic dressage test because any well trained horse from any discipline can do a walk trot and canter, change of pace, leg yields and a bit of lateral work. It's not "dressage" it's just riding!! A QH, Arab, random grade horse, etc.. could all probably get a 60% at second level (with a good rider).

Up to the "intermediate" levels, so 3rd, 4th and PSG a lot of horses can get through the tests and it's not uncommon to see a "weird" breed be able to do some of the more collected work to an acceptable standard (remember, that in a dressage test "5" is "satisfactory", and a 50% at PSG is not exactly what we are striving for...). My friend and her TB routinely placed top 5 in 15+ horse PSG/I1 competitions. My other friend trained her QHxTBxMorgan to 4th level, etc.. They don't find it easy though and neither horse was a spring chicken when they made it to that level, and both are decently conformed horses (for dressage).

GP is what separates the boys from the men. And of the GP horses I have seen, most are bred for the task. I have seen ONE off breed horse in person doing the GP and it probably got between a 0 and a 2 for every single piaffe because it walked behind in the piaffe. And of course there are videos of the one or two Vanners that do GP and the lone QH in the world that does demos of the "GP". Which are not, infact, proof that every horse in every breed is speshul and can "do the GP", but just proof that there are freaks of nature in every breed that can do something they aren't bred to do. How sound they will be in 10 years is up for debate...

Task bred horses find dressage easier, can be trained easier, find the tests easier and as a result, like Bonfire and Gigilo, can compete INTERNATIONALLY and be competitive for gold medals into their late teens, and then retire happy and in a big field and not need to be drugged every day of their life. I would love to see Rugged Lark after 15 years of being forced into a false frame and overloading his joints doing "GP dressage" and how many drugs they have to pump into him to keep him field sound.

Just like it is unfair to make a short stumpy person (like myself) do long distance running, or a tall lanky person do deadlifts, it is unfair to expect a horse that is obviously no where near conformed for dressage, do an intermediate to upper level test.
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post #43 of 45 Old 04-08-2012, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by thesilverspear View Post
Did no one really notice my p*ss take, suggesting I should use my horse for reining?

Can I use my hair color as my defense? Lol...
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Yes many WB breeds are bred for jumping/dressage excellence thus they find that work easier then a bred not designed for one sole purpose. But also there is breeding with arab horses for sport horse excellence so they can be competitive in dressage and also jumping. Many arabs find sport horse classes, dressage, and jumping easy compared to other breeds for this reason. As for the QH I don't know of there breeding for sport horses or if there is any because the only QHs I've been around were for western and hunt seat purposes and some low level jumping. I agree some breeds find it a lot easier then others thats why riders chose the best.

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post #45 of 45 Old 04-16-2012, 09:36 PM
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Yes warmbloods are made for dressage and jumping. I wish I could afford one but luckily most dressage judges understand that dressage at the lower levels will be performed by...all kinds of interesting mixes. I rode an amazing quarter horse/Belgium draft, who could get 8s on some movements. I swear he would puff up when he entered the ring, felt like a 16.2 warm blood. If dressage as a sport is going to grow in North America, then those interesting horses should be warmly welcomed. I love seeing the pony club kids in their rubber riding boots, riding a test.
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