epiphany today
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Riding Horses > English Riding > Dressage

epiphany today

This is a discussion on epiphany today within the Dressage forums, part of the English Riding category

    Like Tree10Likes

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        01-31-2013, 10:30 AM
      #1
    Trained
    epiphany today

    For ages I've thought my horse is just stiff/lazy/distracted/has a sore back when he refuses to work over his back and come into the bridle. He usually starts working nicely after he's been working a while, but takes time to do it.

    Today I discovered that in actual fact, I am a bigger part of the "issue" than I thought. He was heavy, flat and strung out, and I realized I was slouching. As soon as I realized this and straightened up, he got lighter and lifted his back. Thinking it HAD to be a coincidence, I slouched again, on purpose. He went heavy, flat and strung out, hollowed, and poked his nose. When I straightened up again, same result, MUCH lighter horse.

    It is incredible how much the position of a rider's shoulders influences the horse's way of going! Don't get me wrong my gelding still gets heavy, flat and strung out at times, and still takes time to work down, but if I'm concentrating more on keeping a strong upper body and less on how he's actually working, he works so much better.

    Hmmm.

    Next show I go to, I need to concentrate less on my horse, and more on RIDING my horse.
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        01-31-2013, 10:33 AM
      #2
    Banned
    It takes two to tango
         
        01-31-2013, 11:42 AM
      #3
    Trained
    It shocks me how long it took me to realize that Muppetgirl.

    I mean he DOES get sore, over his loins, and is incredibly long and can be stiff. AND is lazy. So they're all perfectly valid reasons why HE might be reluctant to work. But it took me until today to really "get" that regardless of what factors are affecting the horse, I should still be able to get and keep him together if I'm riding well enough.

    I haven't struggled to keep short-backed horses together, not since I learned how to keep a soft and fluid contact, but the long ones like Monty are harder. And I think I slouch more on him than I do on other horses, too, which would be due to my lack of trust in him. I'll trust my friend's crazy OTTB mare but not my educated schoolmaster... really need to work on my priorities there I think!
         
        01-31-2013, 12:27 PM
      #4
    Trained
    Also remember that be can feel your lack of confidence and trust as well as what direction you're looking in. It totally blew my mind the first time I realized these things and admittedly I sometimes forget.

    I'm curious now as to whether you'll see any improvement in his soreness now that you've figured out how to get him working through his back more.

    Good for you though! Isn't it awesome to get that AHA/OMG moment?
    Posted via Mobile Device
         
        01-31-2013, 01:04 PM
      #5
    Trained
    Well and truly! He's half Arab, half TB, so very sensitive to what I'm feeling. Lucky for me he's a low energy horse, so me being a high energy person we balance each other out and usually create a reasonable picture.

    Either I've only been able to REALLY feel the horse under me in the past 6 months, or I've only been able to get him working over his back in the past 6 months. Up until the past maybe two weeks I've only gotten flashes of it but today we had several laps solid long and low lifted through the back and driving from behind... we were in fairly heavy sand too so it was even harder for him!

    He feels so nice when he's swinging through the back and really working. Still nearly impossible to sit his trot, but he's a nice ride.
         
        01-31-2013, 05:55 PM
      #6
    Trained
    Glad that you have realised it ;) Everyone tries to make excuses about the horse being sore, saddle not fitting so on and so forth, when they can't get their horse going.
    9 times out of 10 the horse is perfectly fine and the rider is just not doing their job.
    I'd say his back was getting sore because of how he travels under saddle. Once he gets stronger in carrying you rather than hollowing away, you'll be saving a lot of money on chiropractor bills.
    EvilHorseOfDoom likes this.
         
        01-31-2013, 05:58 PM
      #7
    Banned
    When I'm riding and my horse is doing something I don't want - I immediately look at what I'm doing......and it is usually if not always me

    Had everyone laughing at the barn a few days ago when I called out 'one day it's NOT going to be me!!!'.........
         
        01-31-2013, 06:48 PM
      #8
    Foal
    I am happy you have finally realised this. I do wonder how many instructors have told you this in the past but you have disregarded their advice? In any case, it is wonderful now that you are going be a better rider for the sake of your horse.
         
        01-31-2013, 06:54 PM
      #9
    Showing
    Had a similar epiphany a couple of weeks ago - I decided to rider-up and do some serious no stirrup work, and it had totally changed Ronan's way of going as well as his responsiveness. It's amazing how much influence we truly do have. Once I started really truly riding and working hard, he lightened up and started using his back.
    Sigh.
    Posted via Mobile Device
         
        01-31-2013, 07:46 PM
      #10
    Trained
    In some ways its bit depressing when we find out it's us causing the problem - its human nature to NOT want ourselves to be at fault.
    But I do find it really satisfying when I have a lesson, change how I'm working at something, and it all falls into place. I can change what I'm doing a lot more easily than changing what the horse is doing, so that's the little piece of relief in knowing it's my own fault ;)
         

    Quick Reply
    Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
    Message:
    Options

    Register Now

    In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

    Already have a Horse Forum account?
    Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

    New to the Horse Forum?
    Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

    User Name:
    Password
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
    Password:
    Confirm Password:
    Email Address
    Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
    Email Address:

    Log-in

    Human Verification

    In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


    Old Thread Warning
    This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    I just had an epiphany!! dreamrideredc Horse Talk 9 11-07-2010 08:47 PM
    I had an Epiphany today! kathryn Horse Riding 1 08-21-2010 09:17 PM
    Hello, Epiphany! Welcome to My World! SorrelHorse Horse Riding 12 05-18-2010 02:19 AM
    I had an epiphany! Arksly Dressage 6 04-30-2010 09:32 PM
    I had an epiphany about my life..... DarkChylde General Off Topic Discussion 16 02-05-2009 05:58 PM



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:44 AM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0