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        09-29-2010, 12:50 AM
      #21
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    Oh my, it is the same horse and rider...that's awful.
         
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        09-29-2010, 12:54 AM
      #22
    Trained
    Oh gosh, I'm so naiive. I thought they were just patting the horses forehead :roll: Mine turns his head and I give him scratches from the saddle so it reminded me of that.
         
        09-29-2010, 12:55 AM
      #23
    Started
    If only, if only..
         
        10-02-2010, 11:44 AM
      #24
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LoveMyDrummerBoy    
    I thought that when they bend over, in response to corinowalk's question, that they are putting the horse's tongue back in his/her mouth. I've also heard that when a horse sticks his tongue out that that, it means extreme discomfort.

    Go figure.
    I just have to say, my old horse had a habit of sticking his tongue out while we rode... or lunged... lol he just did it when he was bored, because believe me, he was definitely not in discomfort, hhaha :) .

    All I can say is... those riders must begetting HUGE arm muscles. Because if I pull when im trying to do something (haha ya, the habit is pretty muchgone, but sometimes it shows up when im in stressful clinics and stuff, haha) my arm muscle get SO SORE. Lol maybe they take steroids........
         
        10-02-2010, 12:05 PM
      #25
    Yearling
    Being very dressage ignorant, I was wondering what it meant that the rider got rung out. I assume that was a poor score.
         
        10-02-2010, 12:11 PM
      #26
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Juniper    
    being very dressage ignorant, I was wondering what it meant that the rider got rung out. I assume that was a poor score.
    rung out usually means they got in short, kicked out of the ring. The judge uses a little bell to ring us and say we canbegin the test, but it can also mean that we went off course, or we are disqualified (rung out) :)
         
        10-02-2010, 12:40 PM
      #27
    Yearling
    Thanks. Hope that happens to her often!
         
        10-02-2010, 12:56 PM
      #28
    Yearling
    Oh gosh, I'm so naiive. I thought they were just patting the horses forehead :roll: Mine turns his head and I give him scratches from the saddle so it reminded me of that.


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    ^^^^hahaha spastic you gave me a luagh anyway!!
         
        10-03-2010, 03:40 PM
      #29
    Weanling
    These are the diagrams for acceptable "extreme frames" as published by the FEI. Nothing in there about true hyperflexion (meaning, pushing the horse beyond ordinary range of motion) being allowed.

    I saw these pictures when they were first released, and I still have a difficult time believing the lot of them were "bad moments". I mean, look at those ridiculous hands of Adelinde and Mr. Kittel! Maybe if I ever go to watch the WEG or World Cup, I will take a sharp knife into the warm-up and cut the reins of the hyperflexing fools. I'm willing to bet that they will smack themselves in the face.


    Also, I'm not so good at translating German - does anyone have translations for the captions at all?
         
        10-03-2010, 08:06 PM
      #30
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dressagexlee    
    These are the diagrams for acceptable "extreme frames" as published by the FEI. Nothing in there about true hyperflexion (meaning, pushing the horse beyond ordinary range of motion) being allowed.

    I saw these pictures when they were first released, and I still have a difficult time believing the lot of them were "bad moments". I mean, look at those ridiculous hands of Adelinde and Mr. Kittel! Maybe if I ever go to watch the WEG or World Cup, I will take a sharp knife into the warm-up and cut the reins of the hyperflexing fools. I'm willing to bet that they will smack themselves in the face.


    Also, I'm not so good at translating German - does anyone have translations for the captions at all?
    Good luck with that seeing as you aren't allowed into the warm up without a pass for exactly that reason. It's like letting PETA join in on the seal hunt.

    From what I have heard form people actually there is that yes, these shots were selected from many and in the warm ups during the competition there was nothing more than just flexing the horse perhaps excessively, no Rolkur. And that this whole this has totally been blown up by the media. Not supporting Rolkur, just saying that people need to be less harsh. Think of it in a reciprocal matter. There are probably some pictures of all of us riding where it wasn't taken ideally and could be looked upon in a poor light. Luckily, we're not international riders with critics breathing down our backs at every moment. And Kittel's horse as I have found out actually has a tongue issue. Not sure of the name and I'm sure if I cared enough I could Google it.
         

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