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post #11 of 28 Old 11-19-2009, 05:28 PM
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HAHAHA. someone PLEASE video when anky gets a yellow card. Not that its going to happen, but that would be the highlight of my day :).

i do agree with the rule though. hyperflexion takes a lot away from the origin and purpose of dressage, IMO. Im glad they are going to try and do something about it. Whether it works or not its worth a shot.

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I'd buy a beer for the person that tells Anky off.
i second that! :) maybe a whole case lol ;)
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post #12 of 28 Old 11-19-2009, 09:39 PM
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I think if you got a person who isn't impressed by the names and fame some of these people have, they'll go on and give them a yellow card! I would... I don't care WHO they are, it's wrong.

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i second that! :) maybe a whole case lol ;)


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post #14 of 28 Old 11-21-2009, 05:53 PM
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it sounds good to hear that they want to do something about hyperflexion, personally it looks terrible to me! it looks very uncomfortable and the horses dont look like that enjoy their work when they are hyperflexed. my favourite thing to see in dressage is a rider and horse when the horse looks happy to be trying its heart out for the rider, and that a rider knows her horse is trying his heart out for her, even if their not the best, they look happiest and will probably go far.

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post #15 of 28 Old 11-22-2009, 12:42 AM
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Might I ask exactly what hyperflexion is?

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Wait, I just saw the video. Nevermind

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post #17 of 28 Old 11-22-2009, 01:33 AM
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Well, every discipline has trainers who will test the limits. In Western pleasure, they have spent decades trying to fix the problem of extremes that came into that sport. With us, it may well be the rollkur training. While a little bit may be OK in training, no one can argue that it has become grossly overused (and poorly executed). It will take courage for the first "big name" yellow cards. But, until it happens...nothing will change. The judges being enamored with "flashy" (over correct) movements need to be changed too.
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It's not so much that the judges are "enamored with flashy movements", it's that they tend to overlook some mistakes if said competitor has "primed" the judge somehow. There are more FEI judges than a lot of people believe that can be bought.
Also, it is a common trend for judges to give out high marks in order to get hired more often.
The judging problem is something that needs to be corrected in a different manner and imho is completely un-related to the Rolkur debate.
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post #19 of 28 Old 11-23-2009, 03:01 PM
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It's not so much that the judges are "enamored with flashy movements", it's that they tend to overlook some mistakes if said competitor has "primed" the judge somehow. There are more FEI judges than a lot of people believe that can be bought.
Also, it is a common trend for judges to give out high marks in order to get hired more often.
The judging problem is something that needs to be corrected in a different manner and imho is completely un-related to the Rolkur debate.
Anebel, you bring up a very good point here.


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post #20 of 28 Old 11-24-2009, 04:00 PM
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I don't believe it's un-related at all.

It used to be a cardinal sin to have a horse behind the vertical for a part of the test, let alone the whole thing.

Yet how ridiculously high are Totilas's scores, which a head behind the vertical an entire test? Anky's horses? Countless others? Broken at the third vertebrae, and their poll is never the highest point--because they are pulled into position.

I tend to think they are very related.

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