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    11-25-2011, 07:35 AM
  #11
Foal
Sorry I just had to laugh at the thought of her slobbering on your boots at the end of a test! Lol.

I've not had this problem but it sounds like she's just being 'young' and that it's something she will grow out of. I think I'd be tempted to make it a bit uncomfortable for her though by perhaps making her walk a very tight circle in whichever direction she turns her head as soon as she does it. Once she works out that turning her head = work and standing straight = rest, she might stop.

Just a thought, but could she be looking for a treat???
     
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    11-25-2011, 09:37 AM
  #12
Green Broke
Hi Doonsmum, I don't feed her any treats by hand, she'll only get apples and carrots in her feed bucket when I'm finished if she's been good so not too sure if she's looking for them ;D

I agree its being young lol, despite being 6 she hasn't had a lot of work done with her, so mentatlity wise, she's like a toddler!!


Spyder- gave your theory a bash yesterday and will keep it up for the next week-10 days, she became a nightmare the third time I asked and actually threw her head up in the air once, and quite high and hard so I pushed her on and stopped her again- I got her out of the head tossing, really don't want her to start as the amount of times she either tried to sit or go up was...ahem...remarkable. Will keep on at it... if it doesn't work, Doonsmum's excercise next ;D
     
    11-25-2011, 10:24 AM
  #13
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Originally Posted by DuffyDuck    
Hi Doonsmum, I don't feed her any treats by hand, she'll only get apples and carrots in her feed bucket when I'm finished if she's been good so not too sure if she's looking for them ;D

I agree its being young lol, despite being 6 she hasn't had a lot of work done with her, so mentatlity wise, she's like a toddler!!


Spyder- gave your theory a bash yesterday and will keep it up for the next week-10 days, she became a nightmare the third time I asked and actually threw her head up in the air once, and quite high and hard so I pushed her on and stopped her again- I got her out of the head tossing, really don't want her to start as the amount of times she either tried to sit or go up was...ahem...remarkable. Will keep on at it... if it doesn't work, Doonsmum's excercise next ;D
Good.

The main thing is to go to something entirely different if the head toss gets too much then maybe 10-15 minutes later do one or two more then something else. The point you want to get across to her is you will not press the point too hard BUT you WILL bring it back.

You will also have to judge on a day to day basis just how long you can keep her halted. Again don't press too hard but do try to add a little more each time.

A lot of this is going to have to be your assessment of her mood from day to day and if she is being particularly figity I would not press it more than one halt in that session.

Again the point is to make it part of what you expect just like asking for a trot...you expect her to trot.

It is going to have to be a judgement call each day.
     
    11-25-2011, 03:55 PM
  #14
Green Broke
Totally agree Spyder, and today I didn't do any. I'm trying to get my old horses' Kieffer fitted to Duffy which shouldn't be too much of an issue as it has a plastic tree so can be remolded- however the saddler believe reflcoking will help and second time STILL not fitting properly, tried it just incase she was stiff but it didn't fit..argh!

We had the same issue with the reining back, she learnt it on the floor with vocal commands, and then on the saddle, she was doing it well, again not every day but every now and again.
One day she just refused. Well and truly. So, as we had learnt on the floor, my trainer held a whip in front of her legs, nope. Tapped her legs, nope, Whacked her legs, and she just spun round. So I dismounted and went to do it as we used to do it on the floor and she went up and spun.. I didn't move fast enough and she pulled me bad shoulder and I fell over. My trainer spent ten minutes in a power struggle between hard-ashed trainer and big ponio, because she stood there with her head up, ears forward, trying to run over my trainer. Left it two weeks, and then when I asked her again, legs gently on her and she shot backwards- no more issues.

Its just a time thing, but I REALLY don't want her getting in to the head tossing thing again.

Thanks so much Spyder, will keep you updated for when we do it, and how it works out for us!!
     
    11-26-2011, 02:09 PM
  #15
Yearling
I'm really verbal, and with my fidgity horse I'd halt and not give at all, but ask her to round up, and when she did, I'd count loudly: ONE...TWO and THEN I'd give the reins. That's how I got her to hold really still -- I think at first she'd hold her breath (!) but in time she learned to wait for the release, then she could stretch. Eventually I got a count up to about 12.

I admit, it was a sort of trick-halt, but it blended later into a normal, ridden halt. It just made it easier for this particular horse to know what the "final answer" was before tackling the problem; if that makes sense.
     

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