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    06-15-2011, 07:18 AM
  #11
Showing
From what I was told by my trainer (who also judges) you CAN use one. HOWEVER you need a vet report that it's medically necessary. Actually I got one for my qh just in case (as she has head shaking syndrome). But the way I do it I have full mask on during warm-up and waiting, and take it off/put fly spray on just 5 mins before entering the ring. Usually it's enough for those 5-7 mins test takes.
     
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    06-15-2011, 10:56 AM
  #12
Trained
Fly Veils are not permitted in the dressage ring - as already stated, I would get a good fly spray, and that roll on fly repellant. That's what I do with Nelson.

I use the Roll On stuff and put it in his ears, around his ears and poll. And I use a good wipe for his face. I use WIPE actually, lol - it's a thicker oil based that works darn tootin' good. I use that just for his face though. I put it on his forehead, bridge of his nose, over his nostrils and on his muzzle, his cheeks - I avoid the eyes.



I love that stuff.
     
    06-15-2011, 11:13 AM
  #13
Trained
Actually guys I think val is right. As far as I know its legal with a note from a vet, usually they will take them off at the tack check to make sure the ears aren't stuffed. At least this is what happens around here.

I can check the usdf rules if yall want.
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    06-15-2011, 11:41 AM
  #14
Trained
Ok so I checked the rules. DR121 #7 says basically they are only allowed if bugs are really bad and if they are allowed its announced and allowed for the whole class. And they should be conservative, I think every dressage rule involves that though lol.

Anyways basically what I would do is at the beginning of the day ay least a few hours before my ride if it is buggy and ask the steward if fly veils will be allowed that day. That should either give you an immediate answer or set the ball in motion and hopefully by your warm up they will have made a decision.
Good luck!
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    06-15-2011, 11:43 AM
  #15
Banned
DR121.7 states...

Fly hoods (ear covers) will only be permitted in order to protect horses from insects. The fly hoods should be discreet and should not cover the horse’s eyes, and will only be permitted in extreme cases at the discretion
Of the presiding judge(s). Permission must be granted prior to the class and applies to all competitors in the class.


So as stated they are not normally permitted. IF and only IF you get permission prior to the class and the judge is ALSO willing can you use them.

Most competitor err on the side of caution and will probably take them off just before entering. When the steward checks your equipment just before entering they may require you remove it to check to see if there are any ear plugs ( not allowed) so you can just allow it removed then if you haven't got all your permissioons in order.

Please note that IF you go the way of getting permission it MUST be done well before the class commences and all documents have to be seen by the show staff and judge so they can decide.

To most this is not worth it but if your horse gets extremely discomforted then it would be worth the hassle.
     
    06-15-2011, 11:59 AM
  #16
Trained
I always ask for stuff if I want it. All you have to do is ask a question and the judge says yes or no and you hear about it later.

There aren't usually documents reqd... it's just like the boot rule. Someone asks the steward, on a break the steward asks the judge, the judge says yes or no and then it is announced if its allowed. It's not a huge deal just ask in the morning
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    06-15-2011, 12:44 PM
  #17
Weanling
Thanks everyone. I thought it might've been a 'grey' area, I heard the rules had been adjusted to allow with medical note too. This is our first time out in dressage, so I don't want to stick out or be disqualified. Of course, it wouldn't hurt to ask either.

The veil I got is this one: Cashel Comfort Ears at Windgate Saddlery|Ear Nets|Fly Masks|Fly Protection|Fly Care|Horses (Ear Comfort). I'll take it off for the test.

But I'll definitely try the WIPE (thanks for the recommendation MIE) and the clear swat (so many advances since the nine years I've been overseas and out of touch!).

I am glad I'm not the only one with a head shaking, bug-eaten beast.
     
    06-15-2011, 12:47 PM
  #18
Banned
Thank you for the link, Writer. I think you just solved my problem. I was looking for an ear bonnet with the forelock slot.
     
    06-15-2011, 12:51 PM
  #19
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
Thank you for the link, Writer. I think you just solved my problem. I was looking for an ear bonnet with the forelock slot.
No worries! I picked up mine at our local tack shop for $15.95. My gelding loved it and, even without a forelock or bridle holding it in place, it stayed on during grooming sessions.
     
    06-15-2011, 03:16 PM
  #20
Trained
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Originally Posted by writer23    
Thanks everyone. I thought it might've been a 'grey' area, I heard the rules had been adjusted to allow with medical note too. This is our first time out in dressage, so I don't want to stick out or be disqualified. Of course, it wouldn't hurt to ask either.

The veil I got is this one: Cashel Comfort Ears at Windgate Saddlery|Ear Nets|Fly Masks|Fly Protection|Fly Care|Horses (Ear Comfort). I'll take it off for the test.

But I'll definitely try the WIPE (thanks for the recommendation MIE) and the clear swat (so many advances since the nine years I've been overseas and out of touch!).

I am glad I'm not the only one with a head shaking, bug-eaten beast.
Nelson is quite sensative with flies as well, so I understand where you are coming from.

I love that Wipe! I do! It's pricey, but does a great job. I have a small bottle of it, but I only use it for the dressage phase at HT's. That's it. So it'll last me a summer or 2.

I haven't tried the Swat - I think that would be too "goopy" if you know what I mean.....like for example, riding in a dry arena for my test ending up with grit and dirt stuck to that swat in the end...

I use the Roll On, and I find that works well

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By all means, use the Swat, I am interested to find out how that works. I'm not trying to discourage you from using it. I wish you the best!
     

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