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post #11 of 41 Old 11-13-2011, 11:18 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you maura :) I can't wait to bring this horse on. And thanks for taking the time to answer my question.

Spyder I apologise again if I was rude or abrupt but I dislike the idea of someone thinking I am an immature girl who knows nothing about horses taking on a young one. I really do understand what needs to be done
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post #12 of 41 Old 11-13-2011, 11:22 AM
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Snizard,

On internet forums, the best policy is to throw a question out there, read all the answers, take the ones that work for you and disregard the rest. Oh, and develop a thick skin.
Sound advice!
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post #13 of 41 Old 11-13-2011, 08:12 PM
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I REALLY think you need to get organized and focused on one thing at a time.

You are FREE LEASING ( NOT LOANING) a 3 year old.

You don't know how to lunge or do in hand showing and I am wondering about your basic riding skills based on what you have posted so far(other threads).
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Then you did learn something.

Just be careful that if you went to any place outside of your location that if you announce you are loaning something like money that you will have a line up a mile long expecting to get a lot of cash from you.
Take your own advice spyder and stop being so rude to everyone.

In the UK there is no such thing as free leaseing a horse. You loan a horse out or you have one on loan. The is a world outside of the USA and the vast majority of us don't understand a free lease. Lease implys money changing hands. A free lease is an oxymoron

Leasing is only done when the horse is of extreme value and then it is normaly 10% of the value of the horse per year!

The OP sound young and relativly inexperianced however she does not sound ignorant and your attitude is not helping the situation at all! I've noticed a lot of posts from you recently that are anything but helpful and quite a few of them where down right obnoxious.

Just for your future reference spyder:

Loan = Free lease
Yard = Barn
YO = BO
Inhand showing = halter classes but in the Uk they are different to in the US
Ridden showing doesnt realy have a Us equivalent, closest would be breed classes.
Show hunter classes does not equal the Us hunter class.

Perhaps you can learn something new every day?

RIDE your horse FORWARDS and keep him STRAIGHT


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post #14 of 41 Old 11-13-2011, 08:30 PM
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Snizard, I'd say lessons with the good dressage trainer all the way! He/she will help you with basics and how to start it correctly from ground zero. Based on your original post I assume you are not a beginner rider since you've done jumping, however starting/training a horse is not just riding, so help from the professional (live one, not some strangers on Internet who can't even see what you are doing ) would be the best bet.

Good luck with your new project!
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post #15 of 41 Old 11-13-2011, 08:55 PM
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Take your own advice spyder and stop being so rude to everyone.

In the UK there is no such thing as free leaseing a horse. You loan a horse out or you have one on loan. The is a world outside of the USA and the vast majority of us don't understand a free lease. Lease implys money changing hands. A free lease is an oxymoron

Leasing is only done when the horse is of extreme value and then it is normaly 10% of the value of the horse per year!

The OP sound young and relativly inexperianced however she does not sound ignorant and your attitude is not helping the situation at all! I've noticed a lot of posts from you recently that are anything but helpful and quite a few of them where down right obnoxious.

Just for your future reference spyder:

Loan = Free lease
Yard = Barn
YO = BO
Inhand showing = halter classes but in the Uk they are different to in the US
Ridden showing doesnt realy have a Us equivalent, closest would be breed classes.
Show hunter classes does not equal the Us hunter class.

Perhaps you can learn something new every day?
You obviously didn't understand what my point was.

It is the correct grammatical use of the word LOANING.

The person receiving the loan ( or in this case the horse) is not the owner therefore they CANNOT be LOANING anything as they don't OWN anything to loan.

So she should have said using your UK reference is that she HAS A HORSE ON LOAN, not that she IS LOANING a horse.

Loan (ln)n.1. a. Something lent for temporary use.
b. A sum of money lent at interest.

2. An act of lending; a grant for temporary use:

I see poor Judge Judy go bonkers when she gets a defendant saying they loaned the money. Then she proceeds to rip their heads off.

So you see Faye..you do learn something everyday.
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post #16 of 41 Old 11-13-2011, 09:05 PM
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nope, correct use of it is that you are loaning.

I am loaning or I have on loan are interchangeable, it is a UK thing and nothing to get your knickers in a twist about!
My English teachers would have killed me if I'd said Free lease! Just like they would have killed be for saying it is a big little thing.

Jude judy? Never heard of her. Hmmm that must be one of those crummy american shows that never quite made it in the UK. Hardly something I'd use as evidence that your way is correct.

I'll be willing to bet Judge Judy spells colour without a "U" in it. Do that in the UK and you would fail a spelling test. The OP is in the UK, I am in the UK, I understood her perfectly and she used the terms correctly for the situation. You are in the US and thus understand terms differently and you are being downright obnoxious about it.

Btw if you are the part who's horse is being borrowed, the term over here is that the horse is "out on loan"

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post #17 of 41 Old 11-13-2011, 10:26 PM
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You are FREE LEASING ( NOT LOANING) a 3 year old.
OP is from the UK, and the term used there for the free lease is "loan". This is, thus, a correct term in the context.
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post #18 of 41 Old 11-13-2011, 10:31 PM
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You are in the US and thus understand terms differently and you are being downright obnoxious about it.

Btw if you are the part who's horse is being borrowed, the term over here is that the horse is "out on loan"
To be fair, I am also in the US, but I still knew that people from the UK use "loan" and not "free lease". I managed to figure that one out just from reading posts here over the last month. (Then again, I also know that "vest" has a very different meaning there than it does here, as does "jumper".)
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post #19 of 41 Old 11-13-2011, 10:40 PM
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LOL thursdaynext.
There are some cracking ones that get "lost" in translation. One of my favorites is the bumbag, which you in the US apparently call a fannypack. Which get a chortle out of most UK people, a fanny being a derogatory slang term for lady bits.

Yep
US Vs UK: Vest = Waistcoat.

Not sure what you call the item of clothing that we in the UK call a vest. It is a little singlet type affair that goes under your shirt to keep you warm. Care to enlighten the brit?

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LOL thursdaynext.
There are some cracking ones that get "lost" in translation. One of my favorites is the bumbag, which you in the US apparently call a fannypack. Which get a chortle out of most UK people, a fanny being a derogatory slang term for lady bits.

Yep
US Vs UK: Vest = Waistcoat.

Not sure what you call the item of clothing that we in the UK call a vest. It is a little singlet type affair that goes under your shirt to keep you warm. Care to enlighten the brit?
Undershirt, or the more colorful term "wife-beater". Called so because this is the garment that actual violent abusers always seem to be wearing when they get arrested.
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