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post #1 of 19 Old 05-09-2009, 09:59 AM Thread Starter
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Half halts and rider position.

I read this on another forum.

A half halt that results in ENGAGEMENT can only come when a horse has a solid connection.


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Can you explain this to the brain dead teenager?

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Can you explain this to the brain dead teenager?

It is a discussion.

Do you believe a half halt given to a horse that is not "with the rider" or in "sync" with the rider (either because of the rider's or horse's position) could effectively create engagemen or do you feel differently ?

It is a loaded question.
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I feel that you can use a half halt to help bring the horse back under you and back to a nice collected gait.

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I feel that you can use a half halt to help bring the horse back under you and back to a nice collected gait.


Then you are essentially disagreeing with what I read on the other forum.
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I think (And I could be completely wrong) that for a half halt to be truly effective that your horse must be in sync with you. A half halt, I don't believe, can create collection.


Just a wild (slightly, but not really educated) guess
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I think (And I could be completely wrong) that for a half halt to be truly effective that your horse must be in sync with you. A half halt, I don't believe, can create collection.

Just a wild (slightly, but not really educated) guess
Someone could argue that it is the half halt (along with other aids) that puts the horse in sync with you.

I said it is a loaded statement and like most things in dressage nothig is so set that only one answer is correct. I put it out so we/you/us can think through what we do and its effects. In some circumstances SD you would be right and in other circumstances not so much.
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I'll be interested to see what others say :)
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Well... since I am learning more and more about half halts everyday, I guess I should join this discussion.

In my opinion, half halts come a rider working effectively with his/her horse and has a solid connection with their legs and a looser connection with their hands. Not loose, but a squeeze and soften kinda thing.

Half halts should'nt really result in a faster tempo, they should result in relaxation and collection... which generally makes the horses rhythm slower. I have to disagree with that other forum because where I come from, we use half halts to bring our horse back and collect them, not send them forward. Take and release, Squeeze and soften whatever. When you are riding with a solid foundation you can create engament or collection or different tempo. Just because you are riding "in sync" it doesnt mean your half halt creates engagement. If your half halt sends your horse on... then you did something wrong.

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Someone could argue that it is the half halt (along with other aids) that puts the horse in sync with you.
That's what I've always um..."understood" a half halt to be used for. That it's a way not only to collect your horse, but also to bring him back to you or put him in sync. I also read once (although I don't remember where) that a half halt could also be used to let your horse know that you're about to give him a cue or command...sort of a "hey, listen to me, we're about to get to work." I'm not saying any of this is right or wrong...it's just what I understand about it.

I'm interested to see where this discussion goes to see what I can learn from it.

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