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post #11 of 25 Old 07-05-2011, 08:52 PM
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I would not worry about him being on two reins at the same time. If he is listening to the inside one telling him to stay soft to the inside, he will actuallhy be "off" that rein and ON the outside, which just kind of "breathes" with him, no more. I always found that tricky; keeping my outside rein steady, but not so rigid that I stopped breathing with him.

Oh, and bending in the ribcage isn't really bending. It's really the inside leg stepping under the barrel , which causes the barrel to roll outward. Same dif.

Post a video sometime. Would be fun to watch!
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I know I have been meaning to. Hopefully this weekend. It is hard to bribe some one into going out with me to take a video. I'll let ya know, thanks again!
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Directional means that, when turning left the left rein is inside and directional.

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So are you saying you turn with your inside rein? I have always been taught the outside rein blocks the outside shoulder for the turn. So if you are tracking left, outside rein is left, and to say make a 20 meter circle, you would close your outside.
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inside rein is left*, sorry long day. Either way you turn with your outside blocking the outside shoulder to turn, correct?
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When you start learning, aids are different from riding the trained horse. The first thing to get is a forwardness. If you are going forward nicely, one rein is sufficient to change direction. You shouldn't block anything, just make big, flowing turns. This is why it's hard to progress without someone watching/teaching: at what point do you need to do more, and what should that be?
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When you start learning, aids are different from riding the trained horse. The first thing to get is a forwardness. If you are going forward nicely, one rein is sufficient to change direction. You shouldn't block anything, just make big, flowing turns. This is why it's hard to progress without someone watching/teaching: at what point do you need to do more, and what should that be?
I know you only use one rein to turn directions. But I was not taught to turn the horses body to the inside using the inside rein unless you are a beginner. I am not saying you block the shoulder but you "put up a wall" as I have been told to tell that outside shoulder to turn because you want contact with the outside hand not the inside. I take lessons weekly.
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This is from a dressage forum and how I have been taught


"So lets drop it down to the very simple first few times you were on a horse lesson
The inside rein has very few uses compared to the outside rein. One of it's main uses is flexion- it' points the horses nose a bit. SO if your going to turn a corner your inside rein just tells the horses nose 'this way"

Great so now you got it's nose pointed right (say we're turning right) but what MAKES the horse go right? Think of that naughty pony who wants to go home and the kid PULLING on that right rein with all it's might- the pony keeps going to the left (home). So obviously the insdie rein doesn't turn the horse Right? What does? WELL our outside leg does a lot of it- It prevents the horse from going to the left and can go as much as to pushing the horse to the right. The outside rein supports this. It stops the horse from from popping the shoulder to the left and continuing left."

From Ultimate Dressage • View topic - Outside rein in case you want to check it out.
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So are you saying you turn with your inside rein? I have always been taught the outside rein blocks the outside shoulder for the turn. So if you are tracking left, outside rein is left, and to say make a 20 meter circle, you would close your outside.
No open the outside. It is like riding a bike....inside rein contact comes toward you, outside rein contact moves away from you.
Blockage of the inside shoulder occurs when the horse leans to the inside.
The ribcage has limited compression, however, the back vertabrae actually rotate meaning the inside ribs raise while the outside ribs lower.

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Then what about this? It is from classical dressage:

*Your inside hand is for the bend of the neck only. This hand/rein does not say turn right or turn left. It does not steer. The reins are not handle bars. It asks for bend and flexion. The rein must invite neck bend. A take and give gesture.
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