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  • Horse middle neck bulge
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    04-10-2012, 03:15 PM
  #11
Weanling
Jumper - it is very hard to know if the Long and low (L&L) is developing the correct muscles...what you want is to use the L&L to develop her back muscles and get her to carry herself. So the neck must be arched (not just nose on the ground) and there should be a bulge in the middle of the neck on both sides.

If no bulge - push her forward into taking large steps (at trot doing a 20 meter circle), ask her for long and low AND make certain her nose is on, or slightly in front of the vertical. Make certain the contact is staying consistent by opening (as you rise in post) and closing (as you sit in post) your elbows. Rider can only look down with eyes NOT head - look straight ahead (not down) and post straight up and down.

Idea is horse should be carrying herself using her back muscles. Bulge in neck indicates she is doing so, no bulge probably means she's falling on her forehand.

Once she does this consistently then keeping the trot shorten the reins for a circle then back to long and low. Let me know if you have issues when you shorten your reins.
     
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    04-10-2012, 10:18 PM
  #12
Weanling
Thanks for your advice! I rode her today and she was happier than yesterday, didnt do any long and low though. I've been looking for the bulge in front of the withers during long and low, is that the right spot or should it be further forward?
Thanks again.
     
    04-12-2012, 07:35 AM
  #13
Showing
For working the neck muscle? Further up approx where her mane is.

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Originally Posted by Jumper12    
thanks for your advice! I rode her today and she was happier than yesterday, didnt do any long and low though. I've been looking for the bulge in front of the withers during long and low, is that the right spot or should it be further forward?
Thanks again.
     
    04-12-2012, 09:13 AM
  #14
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
For working the neck muscle? Further up approx where her mane is.
im not sure what you mean, are you just referring to the the top part of her neck where her mane is or do you just mean further forward on her neck? And to address your question the long and low is to build the back and neck muscles, in particular to get her to lift her back more.
I was watching a video of a trainer in australia who said that besides feeling the back lift you should look for a bulge in the neck just infront of the withers when letting the horse go long and low to make sure you havent just put them in a false frame as the horse will hollow at that point if they arent really using themselves and have just had their head cranked in. If that made sense!
     
    04-12-2012, 05:46 PM
  #15
Weanling
Bulge is in middle of neck on both sides (when rider is looking down on neck from saddle).
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    04-12-2012, 07:03 PM
  #16
Showing
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Originally Posted by Jumper12    
im not sure what you mean, are you just referring to the the top part of her neck where her mane is or do you just mean further forward on her neck?

Well when I've ridden Sky and he's using his back his top muscle of his neck along with the muscles along his spine (top line) are working so they "bulge"

I'll also attach what I'm talking about.

And yes I realize I look ******ed and my horse doesn't have enough impulsion. This was back before I had a trainer (and kind of when he was starting to get to using his back without the dang fork.)
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