Thanks that helps! I guess I should have been more clear, I have about three "levels" of cue, the normal ask, the harder ask, then the wake up and listen kick, not keeping the pressure on after them ever- he's the sort of horse that would totally lean on me if I let him. I'll have to get a buddy watching me- maybe I've been doing something that I'm not aware of. I'll add in the shoulder back.
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