How much time for proper collection?

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How much time for proper collection?

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    09-09-2013, 01:04 PM
How much time for proper collection?

I am well aware that this varies greatly horse to horse. I have heard different answers from all different sorts of trainers: one year per each step in the classical riding style (6 years total), one year for balanced, forward stretching plus one for proper collection (two years total) etc....

This is more an opinion question: how long (on average) do you think it takes to achieve collection? Personally, I think two years is not long enough, so I'm thinking somewhere in between the 2/6 year mark from past experiences, what is your take?
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    09-09-2013, 04:29 PM
I am riding an andalusian and he has been undersaddle for a little over a year and is successfully doing second level.
This winter we are starting short work. And I expect a solid PSG by 2015.

I think the bigger problem is people dawdling with the horse and he never learns a work ethic. This is especially a problem when horses are started too soon. Above mentioned horse was started at 5. He has the physical and mental maturity to be pushed.
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    09-09-2013, 10:29 PM
I rode my horse regularly for a good 3 years before I felt him really start to use himself properly. Part of it was my lack of skill on my part and not asking enough of my horse. Part of it was more him being ready for it. He can now do things that he would have protested even trying a few years ago. I don't know if that is more physical ability or mental readiness. Probably both.
    09-10-2013, 03:30 AM
It's taken my horse a year (keep in mind, I was learning alongside of him) to learn forwardness and stretch over his topline at all 3 gaits, through transitions, etc. I wouldn't call our current work collected, but I we're going in that direction... lots of lateral work to build strength. I think in a year's time, with my trainer's help, we'll have some semblance of collection! Maybe. ;)
    09-10-2013, 09:06 AM
Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
I think the bigger problem is people dawdling with the horse and he never learns a work ethic. This is especially a problem when horses are started too soon.
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Love this. Totally agree. What gets me is when people train a horse this way and then blame the horse for not reaching the level they (the person) tried to achieve..
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