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How wide IS a 31cm Stubben?

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    06-16-2013, 06:08 PM
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Weanling
How wide IS a 31cm Stubben?

I'm looking at buying a secondhand Stubben Tristan dressage saddle (cause we all need more saddles, right??). It's a 31cm gullet or tree or whatever. I see on the Stubben website that past that the saddles really only run to 32cm, or X-tra Wide.

My mare is a wide, flat withered Arab/Draft mix. I wish I could tell you what size saddle I currently have but I really have no idea. It's a western saddle and I believe the gullet is around 6.75 to 7" (rough measurement)

How could I measure her to estimate whether the saddle might fit or not? The crappy thing is I'd be buying the saddle sight-unseeen as it's located about 6 hours away.
     
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    06-16-2013, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowCowgirl    
I'm looking at buying a secondhand Stubben Tristan dressage saddle (cause we all need more saddles, right??). It's a 31cm gullet or tree or whatever. I see on the Stubben website that past that the saddles really only run to 32cm, or X-tra Wide.

My mare is a wide, flat withered Arab/Draft mix. I wish I could tell you what size saddle I currently have but I really have no idea. It's a western saddle and I believe the gullet is around 6.75 to 7" (rough measurement)

How could I measure her to estimate whether the saddle might fit or not? The crappy thing is I'd be buying the saddle sight-unseeen as it's located about 6 hours away.
Stubbens run pretty narrow, I had a stubben that was 31.5cm tree and once my TB filled out a bit it was too narrow for her so I sold it.
     
    06-16-2013, 08:06 PM
  #3
Yearling
Since you've been on the Stubben website, you probably know this already, but I'll write it anyway in case you don't know it.

By definition, Stubbens tree sizes (the distance between tree-points) are:
28 = narrow
29 = med/narrow
30 = medium
31=medium/wide
32= wide
Xtra wide is a 34.

They also have 1/2 sizes. 30.5 and 31.5 are fairly common.

Now what's much more open to interpretation is just what does that mean, and I think that's what you're really asking. Good question. Don't take my answer as truth. This is just what I've observed and slowly learned. Others probably have different experiences and better knowledge. Don't buy that saddle until several of us have chimed in and compare notes.

I've heard that Stubbens run trueto-size. I've also heard they run narrow. I've also been told that the older ones ran narrow, and the newer ones more true. I find them narrow, but I've only dealt with older ones (70's and 80's). And, I'm comparing to my favorite go-to saddle: my Passier, which is a very generous medium.

Here's what I've found. On a horse that my Passier medium fit very nicely, a Stubben 31cm (M/W) fit quite nicely. On a horse that my Passier medium was a tad too small on, and the Wintec Wide gullet plate sat nicely on, a Stubben 32 fit nicely. So does that mean that you can use a Wintec gauge to estimate the Stubben tree-size? Sorry - no clue. It will probably get you close, but is no replacement for actually trying the saddle.
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    06-16-2013, 08:11 PM
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Stubbens run pretty narrow, I had a stubben that was 31.5cm tree and once my TB filled out a bit it was too narrow for her so I sold it.
It's too late to edit my post, but here are pic of the 31.5cm tree on my TB before she filled out. Finally, the long awaited stubben saddle fit critique
I thought I had a pic somewhere where I measure the gullet, but I can't seem to find it. I want to say it measured somewhere around 5-5.5" but I sold it quite a while ago.

Found a pic
     
    06-16-2013, 08:49 PM
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Showing
What would the mailing cost be on this saddle? Probably much cheaper than driving. Somehow I don't think the one you mentioned will fit your horse. Isn't a 32mm also 4", and considered medium.
     
    06-17-2013, 08:01 AM
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Green Broke
Stubbens do run narrow. I am not a fan of them by any means. They are difficult to change in any way and uncomfortable.

Would never put one on my horse!
     
    06-19-2013, 12:57 AM
  #7
Foal
Different models/years tend to fit differently. Some 31s were too narrow for my horse and others were okay, and whether or not there was half panel also affected things.
     
    06-20-2013, 12:54 PM
  #8
Weanling
Thanks for the replies!

River has as wide a withers as I've ever noticed on a horse so if Stubbens run narrow then I won't risk it.
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    06-20-2013, 12:55 PM
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Weanling
Plomme, probably a stupid question but what is a half panel
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