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    03-30-2013, 08:10 PM
Green Broke
I want to get better scores simply because I know Cinny is a better horse. They are both riding elderly 4H pleasure horses so it will be interesting to say the least.

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to do eventing, but I don't think 15h slightly "over at the knee" Cinny could make it over those cross country jumps and I really don't want to change horses. He does however enjoy BEING a cross country jump......He lays down on the ground and/or rolls and the yearling he is turned out with jumps over him constantly, it's hilarious.
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    03-30-2013, 08:46 PM
Just do elementary. Any horse can step over 2' fences and the XC for those are logs on the ground. Lots of fun and you'll never meet anyone like that pill at your dressage show.

I would love to see video of him being a jump..that sounds hilarious.
    03-31-2013, 09:58 AM
I think it's a bit absurd to claim that eventing is completely free of jerks. Any place there are people, there will be a few jerks.

OP, is it possible the show just dumped all the ride times together and failed to note that a handful of competitors were competing in an open class? It is not at all uncommon to see AAs, juniors, and open competitors mixed together in the order of go, and I would not expect enough open entries for an Intro test to necessitate a separate set of ride times.
    04-04-2013, 09:13 PM
I would do what Cakemom offered!

In the US riders are granted (AA) status by (signing an affidavit with) the usEf, the usDf only writes the freestyle and walk/trot tests, the rest is administered by the usEf. It is not just saying you are an AA, but signing to it as well. Otherwise the rules are those of the usEf (guidelines from the fei). And although your group might say 'under the usef rules', there is no 'teeth' in that because there is no TD, or repercussions from violating the rules. (That is why there are no longer usDf league shows). If it is recognized show, go to the TD if these are AA classes (vs maidin or open or etc).
    04-10-2013, 09:31 PM
Green Broke
Trainers showing as amateurs.... I would report it.
    04-11-2013, 01:01 PM
Green Broke
She was switched last minute to open so either she did it or somebody else reported her. Her friend dropped out and her daughter, who is her assistant trainer showed in his place as AA. Sort of border line, but who cares. They all got crappy scores so I guess in the end it doesn't really matter anyway.

I heard that she was trying to go for a year end award and to make the schooling show championships hence the trying to get in as AA. NDA rules are to qualify for championship you have to (besides being a member which she just registered with them) you have to have 2 qualifying scored in your division from 2 separate judges. For AA the qualifying score is 60 and for open it is 65...which is why she entered herself as AA. But somebody else caught her on it and I just kept it to myself opting to only say something if she did indeed get tot he championships and then speak up then. As it is, she didn't even get 40's in ANY of her classes so championship qualifications are a moot point for this show anyway.
    04-11-2013, 05:40 PM
Well that worked out well. How did you guys do?
    04-11-2013, 09:17 PM
Green Broke
Score wise, we sucked too, but not as much as this person did. As for MY own opinion, Cinny gave me some of the best tests we have had. No teeth grinding, the movement "felt" better and he attempted to move correctly instead of his usual hollow and braced way of going. Score or no score, it was a success in my humble opinion because of this.

I wrote more about it in my journal here Cinny's 2013 Journal

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