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        08-25-2013, 02:00 AM
      #11
    Weanling
    We are still in the learning phase at this point and just having some discussions about the future. I want to learn more about warmbloods in general, but certainly open minded to other options. The reality is that my daughters little Arab has soundness limitations that will prevent her from ever going past where she is now. The last thing we want to do is push the horse too far and with her heart of gold she'd do anything my dd would ask her to. My daughter is reluctantly talking about it and understands that we will need to do some scaling back with her horse to protect her. We have not made a decision to buy another horse yet, but if she wants to compete it won't be with her current horse. I'm not sure what a "state level" is but she did show in a few rated shows last year and loved it, so I suspect it will be on her radar for the future. Keep in mind that we will be on a tight budget so we're just preparing and learning. We are not set on any particular breed, and we will absolutely not over-horse her with a huge, hot horse, that's for sure! My daughter is young and has lots of time so we are in no rush. We know better than to get a green horse and would love to find a horse trained a bit ahead of my daughter. Requirements would begin with a quiet and willing temperament. In our talks my daughter has made it very clear - she doesn't care about gender or breed, she has to be able to "connect" with a horse before she would ever consider owning it. We have a terrific coach who is helping us, but I am doing some leg work on my own as well.

    Thank you Kayty for the compliment, and fortunately she knows what a privilege it is to own a horse and is really appreciative and shows it daily. We used to board our horse with self-care and every morning she was ready to feed and muck on the way to school without a single complaint. She works very hard at school (hasn't had anything below an A- in 3 years!), she works hard at home and will regularly spend an afternoon doing extra chores without a word from me, and when I thank her she typically tells me how much I help her and support her with her horse and she wants to give back. Seriously. Also, she will earn lessons from her trainer by going over to her house and doing yard work or other projects. Maybe I'm bias but I she is truly a special girl - very driven, hard working and goal orientated, which is not very common in kids her age. And it is all centered around having the privilege of owning a horse.
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        08-25-2013, 03:38 AM
      #12
    Trained
    Sounds like you have a wonderful daughter, they are few and far between when it comes to horses - a lot of the kiddies come onto this forum complaining that their parents won't buy them a horse and it's "sooooo unfair", so it's a huge relief to hear about a kid that has their head screwed on :)
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        08-25-2013, 04:32 AM
      #13
    Trained
    If your daughter likes the Arabian character, maybe an arabian-WB cross would suit her. Look into Arabian sport horses, we have a member here who's stallion is producing really nice crosses. HG Esquire, I believe.
         
        08-31-2013, 06:30 PM
      #14
    Foal
    This is my opinion in the difference between Hanoverians and Arabs... this is just my opinion. I owned Arab crosses as a kid.

    I was disappointed in the intellectual differences between the breeds. The arabs are go getters, funny, very smart, and have big personalities. The warmbloods are duller, more like giant lap dogs, smart in their own way, funny in their own way, but not that quick wit you learn to love on an arab. The warmbloods lack the stamina arabs have, so you have to be more careful in building them up... otherwise they'll get too tired and quit on you. The hanoverians seem to naturally be more pushy. It's easily trained out of them, but every single one I've met has started off trying to physically push me around. I've never had that problem with the arabs.It's kind of like how a dog will jump on you to get affection.. they seem like that. Not malicious usually, just want affection and willing to knock you over for it.

    The arab warmblood crosses I've met (just three so far) have had this weird cross of really smart and down right obstinate. To the point of being infuriating. I love arabs, but... two of them were special horses. One was almost put down because the original trainer couldn't do anything with him. He was purchased by a young girl that has done miracles with him. He's happily adjusted now, and gives his all without fuss to anyone that wants to ride him. The other two are being sold for pennies on the dollar because they are dangerous and need experienced riders. Personally, I believe the issue is that people want to treat them like dull witted warmbloods, and they aren't. You can push a warmblood around and brute force them and they'll usually let you, but try that on an arab and you'll have a fight on your hands... make the arab 16.3 and 1500lbs and it's a whole other game on your hands.

    Again... totally my opinion. I like warmbloods, I just don't want to own one. :)
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        08-31-2013, 06:56 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    ^I'm not sure I agree with the above. I'd say those describe individual horses, not breeds.
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        08-31-2013, 08:53 PM
      #16
    Trained
    I have to agree with core's description - in my experience you have found the same to be true. I don't know Arabs but I know Hanoverians and Arab x hanos.
    The Hanoverians I have owned, ridden and otherwise had dealings with, have been just as core described. Essentially big lapdogs - hence I adore them ;) But you do have to get on top of the pushyness quickly. My youngster is the biggest sweet heart but he is very quick to learn on you, rub on you etc. He pretty much wants to be on your lap.

    The Arab x hano's have generally been nice types, but the verdict is still out on whether I'm a fan of the temperament.
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        09-02-2013, 09:03 AM
      #17
    Green Broke
    Samber and sambertino lines (KWPN's) are generaly quite ammeture friendly lines
         

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