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post #21 of 28 Old 11-14-2010, 06:50 PM
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I think that what Spyder meant is nothing to do with the good that the training involved in dressage. Sure, all horses can benefit from it, in all disciplines.

What Spyder was pointing out was that dressage is going to put bulk on a horse, which is something you generally want to avoid with an endurance horse.

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post #22 of 28 Old 11-14-2010, 07:15 PM
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^ If you are training collection and higher level movements, yes you will certainly create bulk that may be detrimental to performance in endurance.

However lower level dressage, as was specified - things like rythym, relaxation, straightness, yeilding, etc. - Are all 100% beneficial to an endurance horse and will only help, not hinder, performance.

An endurance horse that is lean and light and only knows how to travel straight down a trail all strung out is going to get sore and stiff much more often than a lean and light endurance horse who has learnt how to be supple, rounded through the back, more efficiently carry the rider and move it's body.

Learning to carry more weight on the hind and strengthening the hind are fantastic things for an endurance horse.

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I think that what Spyder meant is nothing to do with the good that the training involved in dressage. Sure, all horses can benefit from it, in all disciplines.

What Spyder was pointing out was that dressage is going to put bulk on a horse, which is something you generally want to avoid with an endurance horse.

It has NOTHING to do with collection as Wild Spot stated ( it was not even mentioned).

Chiilaa...it isn't just bulk but commitment also. AMLARIIEE stated it perfectly and a goal of 75 miles is no small easy paint by number type of commitment. Certainly you can do a few leg yields or circles and very basic stuff ( relaxation etc) but you probably already do this in everyday riding.

To expect anything above this will find one on opposite ends of what each discipline requires.
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post #24 of 28 Old 11-14-2010, 08:37 PM
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^ If you are training collection and higher level movements, yes you will certainly create bulk that may be detrimental to performance in endurance.

However lower level dressage, as was specified - things like rythym, relaxation, straightness, yeilding, etc. - Are all 100% beneficial to an endurance horse and will only help, not hinder, performance.

An endurance horse that is lean and light and only knows how to travel straight down a trail all strung out is going to get sore and stiff much more often than a lean and light endurance horse who has learnt how to be supple, rounded through the back, more efficiently carry the rider and move it's body.

Learning to carry more weight on the hind and strengthening the hind are fantastic things for an endurance horse.
Very good advice!
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post #25 of 28 Old 11-14-2010, 10:17 PM
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Dressage is great for any horse! Just the other day my horse's masseuse commented that she stopped "cutting her horse some slack" and now is consistent in asking her mare move "correctly" for the mare's sake. Dressage encourages the horse to use his/her body in a way that makes carrying a rider more comfortable.
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post #26 of 28 Old 11-14-2010, 11:29 PM
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I think she can do lower level dressage althlough she is also wanting to keep up on her endurance....I say try it...you may or may not like it..it doesn't hurt to try it out and it's really good for the rider and horse.
I'm learning it right now.
My horse is a little black and white mare..she isn't bred to do dressage but I want to try it with her and have us both become better riders.
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post #27 of 28 Old 11-15-2010, 01:17 AM
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Teddybear,

The arab is cute, no doubt. You will need a different saddle. Can you do that? Yours is not only set too far forward, it looks pommel high, so might be too narrow for your horse. Maybe pullin it back will help.
Your position shows me that you are posting off your knee. There is very little weight going down into your foot/stirrup. So, you will always be behind your horse's motion. This is exasperatied by the saddle being pommel high.
YOur horse has an overdeveloped lower neck muscle which tells me that she has a way of going that is braced against any contact you migth apply. Does she throw up her head and run through the contact if you put it on?
You will have to spend a lot of time working her forward and downward to help her develop her neck on the upper part and "unlearn" that bracing, giraff-like way. However, if you can work with her in this position and you be balanced such that you are posting off yourself, not off your knees, she will gain in topline. She will become better at letting her back swing freely and being able to reach under herself with her hind legs; all things that improve balance.

I have to say that she already seems to have a nice reach and a nice forward stride which is a nice quality to have in any discipline.
I bet you two could have fun exploring this new kind of riding. But a different saddle would be ever so helpful
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post #28 of 28 Old 11-16-2010, 07:25 AM Thread Starter
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yes I have a dressage saddle that I can use, and yes she does ride around like a giraffe and throws her head up alot when I pull her back. She is extremly resistant in a snaffle. Thanks again for all the advice
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