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    04-19-2010, 08:12 PM
  #11
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Thanks for all the tips. I agree Anabel, ride what I have - but the comments coming all of a sudden make me think something is up with him. The vet is scheduled to come out for my yearling's boosters this first week of May, so I'm going to talk to her then.

Here is a video of our ride today. We ran through Training 3 at the end. It's rough (read: I'm ALL OVER the place) because it's just in my backyard and we don't have letters yet. Sorry the video is crappy - my camera is dead so my mom took it on hers (and she doesn't realize you can zoom, haha). But the white polos make it easier to see what his legs are doing.

Also - please pardon the spooks in the middle... couldn't figure out what caused them ;)


Looking at the video - I don't think he looks all that bad. I see where his trot gets shorter sometimes, other times it looks alright. His free walk was rough - I was pushing too much and making him jig :/
     
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    04-19-2010, 08:34 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by My Beau    
Thanks for all the tips. I agree Anabel, ride what I have - but the comments coming all of a sudden make me think something is up with him. The vet is scheduled to come out for my yearling's boosters this first week of May, so I'm going to talk to her then.

Here is a video of our ride today. We ran through Training 3 at the end. It's rough (read: I'm ALL OVER the place) because it's just in my backyard and we don't have letters yet. Sorry the video is crappy - my camera is dead so my mom took it on hers (and she doesn't realize you can zoom, haha). But the white polos make it easier to see what his legs are doing.

Also - please pardon the spooks in the middle... couldn't figure out what caused them ;)

YouTube - Beau - Training Level Test 3

Looking at the video - I don't think he looks all that bad. I see where his trot gets shorter sometimes, other times it looks alright. His free walk was rough - I was pushing too much and making him jig :/
This is a nice "safe" test but in all gaits he needs to be pushed out more and balanced more.

You also need to learn the trick in picking up your reins after the walk. The free walk wasn't relaxed and that didn't help in the movement.

My boy had the worst walk. He had a good walk...when he wanted to go ( like to mares) but not when I asked him. So I simply used his desires to my benefit and really pushed him forward when we were heading to the door or someplace desirable. He got the message.
     
    04-19-2010, 08:40 PM
  #13
Trained
I also see you interfearing as a rider. I don't know how to explain it, but I think you're not helping his movement. I see him moving short and choppy, he's not tracking up....at all.

Just as Spyder said, you really need to engage that back end and drive him up and into your contact. Right now, he has a "nice headset" and "looks pretty" but isn't using himself at all.

He needs to track up, he is short and choppy in his movement. And then he gets quick with his step, while instead, you as his rider needs to beable to contain that "energy" with your outside rein, so that he moves BIGGER instead of quicker.

Just as Spyder said - you need to balance him.

Your posture isn't helping him either. You need to open your chest up, and lift your heart. You need to close your elbow angle and pick your hands up much higher than they currently are.

Carry yourself, which will help your horse carry himself. Allow him to open up, move forward and under himself, and as Spyder said - get him balanced so he can use himself accordingly.
     
    04-19-2010, 08:57 PM
  #14
Trained
I'm no expert, but I do know the walk is the easiest gait to ruin with rider interference. The best way I know to get a nice free walk is to go out on a trail ride or just ride them back toward the barn on a loose rein around dinner time. Your horse will stretch out so much, your hips won't be able to keep up!

Keep an eye on the stiffness that you're feeling in your horse. I missed few warning signs last month, and ended up treating Lyme disease to the tune of $800. You know your horse better than anyone, so you'll know if something is going on other than training issues.
     
    04-19-2010, 09:30 PM
  #15
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MyBoyPuck, funny you should say that... whenever we're heading home I always make sure he doesn't walk too much faster because I don't want him getting into the habit of moving towards the barn=I can go fast. He's pretty pokey going away and faster as it is, but I don't encourage it ;)

Spyder, care to share "the trick"? And thanks for your input!

MIE, wow, I'm surprised you could see all that in the crummy video. But, I appreciate it - it's good to be called out every now and then. My hands do tend to be low - it's how I was taught and it's a tough habit to break. Although at shows I do consciously remind myself to lift them ;) My shoulders do look bad too today (I get so focused on getting him going, I forget about me)... and I think my shirt adds to it - it's kind of big.

Hopefully I'm going to start riding with a trainer again within a few months. I found a good one (USDF bronze medal, "L" judge with distinction) back in December. We were going to start with her this spring, but we had a 2 blizzards in February (30+") and the snow load caused her indoor to collapse... so it's going to be another month or 2 before we can start with her.

Until then, we're on our own. But I'll definitely take into account all the info you guys have given me. In addition to talking to the vet - I still think something is going on with him and I'm just adding to the problem.
     
    04-19-2010, 09:49 PM
  #16
Trained
Lol from the comments I was expecting some dire video with the rider bouncing everywhere. Not so.

Do you notice in the video that after he "spooks", he is way better??

I am going to use the boiling water analogy here. This horse is tense with a capital T. If the boiling point of water is 100 degrees, he is at 99 the first half of this test and you left the lid on the pot. During the left canter, he reached 101 degrees and the pot boiled over, so you took the lid entirely off and he cooled down to 95. If you ket riding, he would kep warming up and warming up and it would happen again.
(Omg ice cream truck just drove by my house (: )

Anyways.. You ride like a rider riding a tense horse. He has you in a really great frame with a low neck and a round back and your hands in your crotch riding around begging him not to explode. You need to ride him - you are the rider, not him.
The best thing to help you at this point is to get your upper body posture corrected. You need to work every day on stretching out your pecs (chest). Constantly on and off the horse, bring your shoulders back, make your back flat. Open your chest and take your arms behind your body to get it really open to get the muscle memory reversed.
Then with your shoulders back - put your elbows on your hips, bring your hands up to his neck (not his withers) and ride to that contact.
When he gets tense, balance yourself by stretching your chest out and driving your elbows to your hips. This will center you and allow you to bring the lid on the pot just a little so it doesn't boil over. The more balanced you are, the less tension issues you will have, guaranteed.


Good luck!
     
    04-19-2010, 09:52 PM
  #17
Trained
I appreciate your post Anebel, that helps me alot!
     
    04-19-2010, 09:54 PM
  #18
Trained
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Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
(Omg ice cream truck just drove by my house (: )

Anyways.. You ride like a rider riding a tense horse. He has you in a really great frame with a low neck and a round back and your hands in your crotch riding around begging him not to explode.
MMmmm, ice cream. You crack me up! I love the way you worded this. My horse rides me all the time, so it makes total sense to me!
     
    04-19-2010, 10:07 PM
  #19
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Anabel, you have no idea how incredibly helpful that was.

I agree, he's a tense horse sometimes. Especially at shows. Today, he actually wasn't too bad - those spooks were literally out of nowhere - I had no warning they were coming. It's weird - even though he's tense, he's pokey too. Or maybe he just feels slow because he's taking short, non-ground covering steps. Hmmm...

And I forgot to mention, we're riding on a slope. Don't know if you can tell from the video - but everytime we move from right to left on the screen we're going downhill. I'm sure that's adding to some of the problems in this video since I'm sitting back on him more to steady him down it - rather than riding more forward trying to get his hind end in the right gear.
     
    04-19-2010, 10:34 PM
  #20
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This is one of the most helpful threads EVER!

Almost everything mentioned is something that my guy and I (mostly me), need to work on, and now I just want the weekend to get here so I can ride and try this stuff out!! Brilliant suggestions, and some really inspiring posts into the bargain!

*Kissing the keyboard in thanks*
     

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