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    02-15-2011, 08:47 PM
  #1
Foal
Independent seat help!

Okay so I own a Saddlebred/Arabian cross, with a fast huge trot that is so hard for me to sit!
I had a lesson with a top dressage coach (who, hopefully I'll be able to train under this summer... she's AWESOME) gave me a specific lesson on achieving that independent seat (on one of her lesson horses).
She tried a couple of things to make me be... strong in my core, I guess. First she tried having me say "GRRR" and suck in my stomache/abs... but I didn't seem to get it. She then gave me another theory, also didn't work.
It wasn't until she made me STRETCH. She told me to imagine there was a circle around me, pulling my head up and feet down. I sat as tall as I could, and my legs as far down and I could feel the INSTANT change. Sitting the trot was like a breeze, and my seat REALLY did feel independent... I could move my leg forward or back and my seat wouldn't move!! It was cool! I was very excited.
However, I don't seem to understand this... because how do all the hunter/jumper riders do it without sitting so tall in the saddle. They are in like half seat and still have that independent seat? So how the heck does sitting tall do it?
I know something changed in that lessons because when I left my ABS hurt (well, everything hurt... even though it was barely any work lol).
I had a lesson yesterday with another coach, who I asked to lunge me, so I could do stirrupless and reinless, but I never got the same effect or feeling that I had that day with the dressage coach. She didn't really teach me anything, and I left with a sore butt, not sore abs or legs. :S

The thing is it's hard to sit tall and straight like that on different horses that are faster paced and stuff... I cannot for the life of me do the same thing on my saddlebred... well sort of, but it doesn't feel the same. Hands are bouncy, everything is a mess...

WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS LOL?

Okay I'm going to stop just tell me your thoughts and advice!!! Thanks!
     
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    02-15-2011, 10:02 PM
  #2
slc
Weanling
I think it's really important to just give it time and go through the process of learning the sitting trot. It actually takes about two years, so don't worry about it, just do the work, be patient with yourself as well as the instructors.

You might feel it at first more during the stretch work, and less during the stirrupless work, but it is REALLY important to do the stirrupless work anyway. It as a big benefit over the long term.

I used to kind of do the same thing, I wanted only to do the exercises were I noticed an immediate change and I felt it big time. Well, you can't feel everything that happens, so it's important to just go through the process.
     
    02-15-2011, 10:20 PM
  #3
Trained
It's a very individual thing. You must at some point in your riding career (to be successful in any sport) know where all of your limbs and all of your horse's limbs are all at once - this is a very difficult thing.

For me it was the process of putting my elbows physically onto my hips which made the difference in my core.

Dressage is a journey - enjoy it!
     
    02-15-2011, 10:25 PM
  #4
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
It's a very individual thing. You must at some point in your riding career (to be successful in any sport) know where all of your limbs and all of your horse's limbs are all at once - this is a very difficult thing.

For me it was the process of putting my elbows physically onto my hips which made the difference in my core.

Dressage is a journey - enjoy it!
Haha I was hoping you'd comment. :) Yeah dressage is HARD. It's so much more complex than it looks. When I read articles, blogs etc on how people perform certain movements and when they explain every little detail of them my brain like dies. There is so much accuracy involved, every little thing matters.
That sounds like a good idea- I'm going to try that. Maybe it'll work for me too.
     
    02-15-2011, 10:29 PM
  #5
Foal
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Originally Posted by slc    
I think it's really important to just give it time and go through the process of learning the sitting trot. It actually takes about two years, so don't worry about it, just do the work, be patient with yourself as well as the instructors.

You might feel it at first more during the stretch work, and less during the stirrupless work, but it is REALLY important to do the stirrupless work anyway. It as a big benefit over the long term.

I used to kind of do the same thing, I wanted only to do the exercises were I noticed an immediate change and I felt it big time. Well, you can't feel everything that happens, so it's important to just go through the process.
Haha but I've been riding for more than two years and I feel like I should be a better rider than I am? If that makes sense? I'm also a very impatient person lol. But I see your point and it takes time. Only issue is I'm running out of time. Only one more year until I'm off to university. ): I have a bunch of goals I want to accomplish before that so I guess that's why I'm sort of rushing. So much to learn so little time. :)
     
    02-15-2011, 10:37 PM
  #6
slc
Weanling
No, right now, you're supposed to be exactly as good a rider as you are right now.

You may have ridden for 2 yrs, but independent seat and hand and leg does not develop so quickly or easily.

I have seen people who seemed to 'learn quickly', or, heaven forbid, were called 'naturals'. Guess what? Those guys usually quit after a few years. They aren't willing to knuckle down and work, because they got so much praise early on.

Everyone has to work and work hard to be a good rider. It just takes time and you have to not be hard on yourself.

It's good to be perfectionist and want to be good, but it is bad to be so extremely perfectionist that it stands in the way of progress.

Everything happens when it should, don't worry.
     

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