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post #1 of 5 Old 07-17-2011, 04:52 PM Thread Starter
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So at the mini event, I did test B. My overall score was a 35 (or 135 out of 210)

Here's some of the marks/comments:

1. Enter Working Trot/Trot @ C/ Track Right: 7 "needs more bend in turn"

2. MXK Change rein working trot: 7 late to K

3. A Circle Left 20 m : 7 no comment

4. FXH change rein working trot: 8 No comment

5. C circle r 20m: 6 "needs inside bend. O not round" This was when he start calling for his girlfriend :roll: He was buldging the entire time trying to look to her. Dork.

6. Between c and m: medium walk: 7 no comment

7. MXK change rein free walk K medium walk 5 "no stretch, needs more length and stride" He was basically a giraffe whinnying to her through the free walk. Normally though freewalk is something we still need to work on.

8. A Working trot half circle Left 20m: 7

9. Working canter left lead. X to a half circle left 20m, afb straight ahead: 6 "really early, canter lumbers" I knew this one was terrible. I THOUGHT canter and he just picked it up. Oops.

10. Between b and me working trot 7

11. HXF Change rein working trot 6 late H crooked on diagonal

12. A half circle right working trot 6

13. Apparoaching x working canter right lead at x half circle right 20m circle AKE canter straight working ahead : 8

14. Berwwn E and K working trot: 7

15. B to X half circle right 10m working trot 6 "a bit wide"

16. G halt, salute 7

In Impulsion, submission, rider we got 6. She underlined suppleness of the back, engagement of hindquarters, and acceptance of bridle.

Can anyone elaborate on this, this is the first dressage test I've ridden. What would be best to work on to improve. Can you even tell from the remarks on the sheet?
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So at the mini event, I did test B. My overall score was a 35 (or 135 out of 210)

Here's some of the marks/comments:

1. Enter Working Trot/Trot @ C/ Track Right: 7 "needs more bend in turn"

When you made the turn at "C" the horse lacked the bend that would match the arc the turn required.

2. MXK Change rein working trot: 7 late to K

You probably cut the corner and the horse's shoulders did not pass through the letter "K".

3. A Circle Left 20 m : 7 no comment

Acceptable for the level so nothing wort commenting about.

4. FXH change rein working trot: 8 No comment

Same as my comment for 3
except they thought it was better.

5. C circle r 20m: 6 "needs inside bend. O not round" This was when he start calling for his girlfriend :roll: He was bulging the entire time trying to look to her. Dork.


Pretty obvious. You were lucky to get a 6. The not a round circle along with the head in the air ( against the bit) would have caused me to give you probably a 4

6. Between c and m: medium walk: 7 no comment

Acceptable for the level.

7. MXK change rein free walk K medium walk 5 "no stretch, needs more length and stride" He was basically a giraffe whinnying to her through the free walk. Normally though freewalk is something we still need to work on.

You DO need to work on this as usually there is a coefficient of 2 so you lose 2 points, not one for every lowering of score.

8. A Working trot half circle Left 20m: 7

Acceptable for level.

9. Working canter left lead. X to a half circle left 20m, afb straight ahead: 6 "really early, canter lumbers" I knew this one was terrible. I THOUGHT canter and he just picked it up. Oops.

Because he picked it up too soon you were not able to collect him and balance him. We must be careful on what we think..LOL

10. Between b and me working trot 7

11. HXF Change rein working trot 6 late H crooked on diagonal

Sounds again like you cut the corner and didn't aim for F too well.

12. A half circle right working trot 6

This should have had a comment...bad judge...LOL

13. Approaching x working canter right lead at x half circle right 20m circle AKE canter straight working ahead : 8

14. Between E and K working trot: 7

15. B to X half circle right 10m working trot 6 "a bit wide"

Same as too large a half circle.

16. G halt, salute 7

In Impulsion, submission, rider we got 6. She underlined suppleness of the back, engagement of hindquarters, and acceptance of bridle.

Can anyone elaborate on this, this is the first dressage test i've ridden. What would be best to work on to improve. Can you even tell from the remarks on the sheet?
You basically need to have the horse more flexible and listening to you. Sounds like he was against your leg and bit, off and on during the test.
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Yeah, your comments all point to the same thing, a horse not quite as dedicated to the cause as his rider. Sounds like you did pretty well overall except for the giraffe head free walk. Nothing that cannot be improved upon with some more dressage training. I see lots of half halt, circles and serpentines in your training future!

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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Thank you, this helps.
I was confused because I knew I was supposed to have a low overall score, but then 8's were better than 5's on the sheet.

He is perfectly capable of doing this, and when we schooled at the park a week or so ago he was a perfect gentleman. I need to learn how to get him paying attention to me and making sure I demand and expect more of him. There's a little dressage so next month I'm debating taking him to in order to see if I can improve on our last one. It's a little intimidating though as it'll be everyone from Training to Grand Prix...

Plenty of things to practice!
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So at the mini event, I did test B. My overall score was a 35 (or 135 out of 210)

Here's some of the marks/comments:

1. Enter Working Trot/Trot @ C/ Track Right: 7 "needs more bend in turn"

2. MXK Change rein working trot: 7 late to K

3. A Circle Left 20 m : 7 no comment

4. FXH change rein working trot: 8 No comment

5. C circle r 20m: 6 "needs inside bend. O not round" This was when he start calling for his girlfriend :roll: He was buldging the entire time trying to look to her. Dork.

6. Between c and m: medium walk: 7 no comment

7. MXK change rein free walk K medium walk 5 "no stretch, needs more length and stride" He was basically a giraffe whinnying to her through the free walk. Normally though freewalk is something we still need to work on.

8. A Working trot half circle Left 20m: 7

9. Working canter left lead. X to a half circle left 20m, afb straight ahead: 6 "really early, canter lumbers" I knew this one was terrible. I THOUGHT canter and he just picked it up. Oops.

10. Between b and m working trot 7

11. HXF Change rein working trot 6 late H crooked on diagonal

12. A half circle right working trot 6

13. Approaching x working canter right lead at x half circle right 20m circle AKE canter straight working ahead : 8

14. Between E and K working trot: 7

15. B to X half circle right 10m working trot 6 "a bit wide"

16. G halt, salute 7

In Impulsion, submission, rider we got 6. She underlined suppleness of the back, engagement of hindquarters, and acceptance of bridle.

Can anyone elaborate on this, this is the first dressage test I've ridden. What would be best to work on to improve. Can you even tell from the remarks on the sheet?
So must have been an "eventing" test. In dressage tests the higher score the better, in eventing test you subtract the end score (35% here) from 100 and get your "real" score - 65%. Anything 60% and up is generally considered good. 70% and up is VERY good, 80% and up you need to move up to the next level (e.g. From Intro (walk/trot) level to Training Level).

A. So overall you need to work on more "exact" patterns - in other words :
#2 above - late to "K" means either you didn't travel exactly across the long diagnol in a nice atraight line (M to X then to K) OR you didn't change your posting diagnol at "X". #11 was the same way only between "M" and "H" is the letter "C". From "C" to "H" should be a 1/2 a 10 meter circle such that when you arrive atthe letter "H" you easily turn the horses shoulders onto the long diagnol. #15 was alo the result of an inaccurate pattern.

B. Next you need to work on bend for circle and corners. This is where the idea of inside LEG to outside rein happens. So when you are going to the left you just don't pull on the left rein - instead you left leg is at the girth trying to "fold" the horse in half - between nose and tail. That means inside leg is acting like a block of wood (in a way) the inside rein is opening (towards your knee - the smaller the circle the more leg and more rein you need) and your outside leg is preventing the hore from throwing it's butt to the outside while your outside rein is keeping the outside shoulder from popping out. So you are bending the entire horse from nose to tail around your inside leg.

SO #1 EVERY time you ride work on patterns - whether practicing picking up the left lead canter when you arrive at a weed, fence post, etc. Horse should actually make the transition when it's shoulders arrive at the center of the letter.

#2 - Work on bending. Bend in circles, in corners. Great way (if you're doing it correctly) to get horse to start paying attention to YOU, not what is happening around him.

#3 Impulsion. Here's where it gets tricky. You want/need to push the horse forward BUT not let it "run". At the trot is easiest since YOUR posting controls the tempo - so even if horse is trotting fast after you use some leg you continu to post at the same speed you did before you use leg. Also squeeze lightly both legs and as horse speeds up a very quick squeeze on both reins then go back to holding reins normally. It will also help the horse to pay attention to the rider.

Those exercises when performed correctly will make VERY LARGE improvements on your riding. Good luck.

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