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post #11 of 25 Old 06-29-2009, 09:40 PM
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They have the rules for a reason though and each of those riders have been around long enough to know what they are. I think they make it excessive to get their point across, don't use drugs on your horse that aren't legal.

It's a hard lesson, but I bet she doesn't do it again.

I was wondering the same thing that Spyder brought up. Why would they let a horse like that compete?
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post #12 of 25 Old 06-29-2009, 11:40 PM
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I agree with you completely spyder. It seems like they are using some of these horses just because of the bloodlines, and not necessarily for their soundness.
I don't know if it's the same or a similar condition, but my first real horse (better than 20 years ago) was an appaloosa that we ended up having to put down because he would just ... fall over. He would stumble from time to time, but he would just fall over too. It didn't matter if you were on board or not. But, I was small, so I don't remember the details on it.

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Germany aren't really having a great time are they. Well, when your at that sort of level, you have to know the rules. And stick to them. Even a 16 year old girl in Belgium drugged her pony for the championships. It's sick. If your horse can't handle it, tough! Don't drug it and force it. You know whats weird, Holland hasn't had any problems with doping and that. And why should we? If the horse has a problem, don't compete that high. I never expected this of IW. But, even just for a medical reason. She should of known. Germany has totally lost it's name for jumping and dressage. They should know better. But some people just want the money and drug their horse. So, it's why the FEI are so strict. I do feel abit sorry for IW. 2 years is a long time, bet she doesn't do it anymore.
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Has anyone ever heard of Shivering Syndrome? I have never heard of that before. Is it common?
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post #16 of 25 Old 07-04-2009, 02:22 PM
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I've always heard Shivers (or shivering syndrome) to be more common in drafts. The first time I heard of it was reading my draft horse manual. Apparently it must cross over to light breeds. Here is more on it:

Shivers - University of Minnesota Equine Center
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post #17 of 25 Old 07-06-2009, 08:33 PM
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Well it doesn't matter too much because Isabelle isn't going to be doing that much riding in the next two years anyways.
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Well, she won't be competing anyhow... I rode until the last month or so with both of my boys(you have to quit when you can't get on right anymore lol).Good for her! Glad to hear some good news from her camp.

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All competitors know the rules IW is no exception. all she had to do was make a call to the FEI and the suspension could have been avoided.
To me the story of her horse needing this drug for vet treatment sounds just like that - a story.
She has been caught , and is embarking on a PR exercise to try and save what reputation she has left . If a horse has a cross contamination that can be traced to sloppy barn management that's bad enough - but her horse was DELIBERATLY drugged with what she would have known was a banned substance - she can try to explain all she wants but at the end of the day she knew what she was doing and didn't inform the FEI beforehand , call me a cynic but I've heard stories like this before.

And I believe that a zero tolerance regime is warranted otherwise people like IW would get away with drugging their horses because of who they are , they believe that because they think they are the best they are able to do what they want.
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Does anyone else call bull**** on that 'shiver syndrome' thing? If a horse was afraid to loose it's balance... then how the heck does it piaffe? And passage? And manage to keep calm and collected when it has to balance it's weight, slowly, on TWO legs *gasp!*.

Kind of sounds like she knew exactly what she's doing, and is covering her own behind. I've heard a LOT of reasons from her (I didn't know it would test, I gave it because of this, blah blah blah), but come on. You can't tell me, at that stage in the game, that if you give a horse drugs you have to know if they're banned or not.

I have no real problem with her, but I have no love for drugging horses. If the problem REALLY only showed up when the horse was shod, then why couldn't they just sedate him, shoe him, and have him go on with his life?

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