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post #21 of 25 Old 07-07-2009, 01:45 AM
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Hard to know what really is true and what isn't when you deal with the internet.
I don't really feel sorry for her. When you are spending that kind of money to compete at that level of competition, you really need to be on top of your game and know without a doubt in your mind that what you are doing is correct. I hope she is now going to find herself another vet and that from now on she will make better decisions.

Brings another interesting issue tho. Going to surely turn the tables over now that we have one top rider out of the competition. Interesting to see what happens in the near future.
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post #22 of 25 Old 07-10-2009, 10:15 PM
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The post Solon made was really helpful for learning more about Shivers:
Sounds like a strange illness. But, the article says warmbloods get it - it used to be quite common.

Shivers - University of Minnesota Equine Center
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post #23 of 25 Old 07-10-2009, 10:54 PM
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I agree with the decision. I am getting really tired of all the drugs we pump into our animals, somehow justifying we're "aiding" them. Well, maybe if we didn't ride them into the ground in the first place, this wouldn't be a problem. If your horse is in pain, he needs to be given some HELPFUL medication to alleviate his symptoms, AND NOT BE FREAKING RIDDEN.

I really don't think there is ever any excuse for a competition horse to have a banned susbtance in his system. If he requires the use of said drugs, he shouldn't be competeing. End of story. I'm not against the use of them, I'm against the use of using drugs to mask underlying problems and then justify riding the animal anyway and potentially causing serious damage when he's unable to tell you he's breaking down.

Maybe I'm a bit to cynical? I remember going to a horse show a few years back, sort of as a groom. It was for a family member who also coached me from time to time. She was there with her pony, as well as her friend who was a veterinarian was there with her big black Draft cross. I remember them telling me to stand casually in front of the horse, to block them from view. The vet pulled out a needle and I was immediately alarmed. My family member told me to calm down, she was just freaking TRANQ'ING him, because he spazzed at shows and she'd have no chance of winning otherwise. Yeah. Dead serious. A veterinarian DRUGGED her own bloody horse so she could win an unrated Dressage show against teenagers. And she did. I stormed off in disgust.

Now that I'm older, I wish I'd reported it. I was just a teenager at the time, and I was so alarmed and dismayed at what these trusted ADULTS thought was acceptable, I didn't know what to do. Who'd have believed me? It's not like they'd test at a schooling show, it's the word of a 16 year old or the word of a vet.

Definately sickened and disallusioned me though.

I hope God tells her to smash her computer with a sledgehammer.

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post #24 of 25 Old 07-14-2009, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mayfieldk View Post
Does anyone else call bull**** on that 'shiver syndrome' thing? If a horse was afraid to loose it's balance... then how the heck does it piaffe? And passage? And manage to keep calm and collected when it has to balance it's weight, slowly, on TWO legs *gasp!*.

Kind of sounds like she knew exactly what she's doing, and is covering her own behind. I've heard a LOT of reasons from her (I didn't know it would test, I gave it because of this, blah blah blah), but come on. You can't tell me, at that stage in the game, that if you give a horse drugs you have to know if they're banned or not.

I have no real problem with her, but I have no love for drugging horses. If the problem REALLY only showed up when the horse was shod, then why couldn't they just sedate him, shoe him, and have him go on with his life?
I dont think you fully understand shivers.
I have never witnessed it nor am i an expert but:
Shivers has to do with a horse's brain/nerosystem. Standing on 3 or less legs for an extended period of time causes them to shake and, eventually, fall over. It's not really harmful for the horse as it is harmful to the human/handler. Sedating the horse would have done absolutely nothing.
I do believe this horse could do those dressage moves as he is in motion... not stationary.

And if she was REALLY lying about her horse having shivers... don't you think somebody that personally knows her/the horse would have called her out on it by now??

I'm neutral on this situation..
I see the FEI's point... and I do see the reasoning behing IW actions as to drugging her horse.
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post #25 of 25 Old 07-17-2009, 02:43 PM
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Gotta love dressage busy bodies. Why does everyone have to be all or nothing?

IF I invested a lot of time, money, training ect.. in a horse that competes well, but I couldn't lift his leg to pick his feet because of a medical condition and a vet recommended something to help the horse I say shoot em up! Geez...

I say the rules are too strict especially when god knows what can trip a positive result.. Like the swarms of supplements that are out there that aren't regulated. Heaven forbid you give a horse paprika to make his coat look good. Its soo stupid.

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