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        11-14-2012, 10:00 PM
    Check this out:)

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        11-14-2012, 10:01 PM
    You don`t need markers to do this, as leg yielding is a basic movement and IMO isn`t dressage. I think any properly trained horse and rider, regardless of discipline, should be able to ride it. A center line, is the line cut straignt down your arena, (separating your arena in half length wise) and quarter lines, as you can imagine, cut your arena in quarters lenth wise. These are imaginary lines, as if you were separating your arena into strips. You may wish to turn down centerline, or a quarter line, and ask for the leg yield to the track, or ask for your leg yield from the track to the inside of the arena. Each way requires a different flexation.
        11-14-2012, 10:02 PM
    P.S don't agree with everything she says but at least it's something
        11-14-2012, 10:03 PM
    Oh god, I am probably confusing poor Lexiie
        11-14-2012, 10:06 PM
    Me too...
        11-14-2012, 10:06 PM
    I highly doubt that your horse is giving a true half pass. If she's half passing, she will have a good understanding of collection, leg to hand, be very loose and supple, and find leg yield a walk in the park. There is a reason why half pass is not introduced in tests until medium (3rd? US) level.

    Leg yield is one of the first movements we teach a green horse, to begin an understanding of lateral work.
    Leg yield itself is NOT a lateral movement, as it does not involve bend.

    A good leg yield involves the horse moving forward and sideways according to the riders aids. It's body remains straight and upright (shoulders should not be dropping in either direction), with the poll and jaw flexed slightly against the direction of travel. The rider keeps a firm outside rein, and rides their inside leg towards this outside rein. The outside rein controls the outside shoulder, and the inside rein assists gently in maintaining the flexion. The inside hind passes infront of the outside hind, and the inside fore passes in front of the outside fore.

    The rider should be sitting lightly over their inside seat bone, inside leg at the girth, outside leg slightly behind. Hips and shoulders should be straight, or VERY slightly angled towards the direction of travel.

    In a green horse learning leg yield for the first time, only ask for a step of two at a time. I tend to start on a circle, as most horses tend to find it easier to understand the sideways movement when you already have a basic inside leg-outside rein established on the curve. On a straight line, they also tend to just walk straight towards the edge of the arena, rather than sideways.

    Bring your outside rein out towards the outside shoulder - this creates an 'open door' for the horse to move into. Eventually we will close this door to form a direct outside rein, but in the learning stages, we just want to encourage the horse to step into this space. Apply your inside leg, and as soon as you feel the horse step sideways, ride forward and straight again. In Dressage, quality is ALWAYS more important than quantitiy. So it is much better to do two or three good steps, than 20 unbalanced 'sort of sideways' steps.
        11-14-2012, 10:13 PM
    Okay so Kayty

    What you said made me think that if I had my mare on the left quarter line,

    I would be bringing my left hand (outside) out from her neck a little and raise it a little correct? And then use my inside leg [my right (near the girth)] and apply pressure (while thinking of the pressure moving to my left hand)

    And what I'm looking (feeling) for is that she's crossing her hind legs and moving to the rail (to the left) while continuing straight?
        11-14-2012, 10:14 PM
    Wait, no. I should change my left hand to my right hand! But keep my leg the same?

    I think that's right >.<
        11-14-2012, 10:38 PM
    So you're travelling on the right rein (clockwise).
    Come down the 1/4 line, left (outside) hand moves slightly forward and out (again, only when teaching the leg yield, the outside hand must be closed in a true, trained leg yield).
    Right (inside) leg at the girth to push the horse across.
    Left (outside) leg slightly behind the girth to guard the quarters.

    Both hind legs AND forelegs need to be crossing evenly.
        11-14-2012, 10:41 PM
    Ahh, okay!!

    I feel like it would be easier for my horse to understand this from the sitting trot.
    But she was born a pacer and her trot is horribly bouncy.

    I'm going to try at the walk a little because we've never done this before and then move to the trot.

    Should I try the sitting trot first? I feel like maybe she would be able to focus more on what I'm asking if I'm sitting

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