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    10-06-2011, 02:18 PM
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looking into this dressage instructor

I have been taking lessons at this one barn since January, then in April I moved my horse there. My instructor is great, but she doesn't know much of anything about dressage. We also have very different views when it comes to training my TB. Such as I want to train her to have a batter stop, my instructor just wants to throw a harsher bit in her mouth. I just found out that the neighboring barn does beginner dressage lessons. I'm thinking about giving her a try(I'll still takes lessons with my current instructor) I think she will be better able to get my horse where I want her to be. This is her website, I know it's hard to go on just that but what do you guys think? Pleasant Ridge Farm
I watched her jumping lesson the other week and I like the way she rides and I like her instructor also(but I don't think I'm at the level yet).
     
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    10-06-2011, 02:34 PM
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Weanling
Hard to know from a brief description in my opinion, but looks like its worth a try! Good for you for branching out and taking control of your own training.
     
    10-06-2011, 10:50 PM
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Showing
I going to be nasty here and say if you really want to look into good dressage lesson look for good dressage instructor. "Beginner dressage lessons" screams loud at me that person probably has just some understanding/ experience with dressage (if any at all), and that "beginner will be OK with anything". In fact I do think it to be much more challenging for the coach to teach a beginner how to ride correctly than seasoned rider to progress.
     
    10-08-2011, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
I going to be nasty here and say if you really want to look into good dressage lesson look for good dressage instructor. "Beginner dressage lessons" screams loud at me that person probably has just some understanding/ experience with dressage (if any at all), and that "beginner will be OK with anything". In fact I do think it to be much more challenging for the coach to teach a beginner how to ride correctly than seasoned rider to progress.
I don't think that was nasty at all. I understand what you are saying, but when it comes to be on Bella I think it might be beneficial. Lately Bella has been being difficult, she wants to go all the time and doesn't want to stop when you ask. My current instructor would just have me put a bit "with more stopping power" but I refuse to do that. I'm hoping that the neighbor may be able to help actually train her to stop better instead of just bitting up. If she isn't able to help she said her trainer would take me on as a student. This is her website, do you think she seems good? Home
     
    10-10-2011, 08:18 AM
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Showing
Rachel, I going to be completely honest here (and speaking just from my personal experience). Feel free to disagree.

First of all, if you only look into dressage I don't think eventer would be the best choice (unless you are very lucky). IF you look into eventing and jumping, then yes, I'd go with eventer. Otherwise I'd look for true dressage trainer. Many eventing trainers in my area in fact take lessons with dressage trainers, so there is a reason for that I'd think. Lol!

Another thing I noticed (I went through number of different instructors different levels), I worked the best with very seasoned trainer who knows/sees exactly what I'm doing wrong and goes after my position and cue every min (or every other min ). All younger instructors I worked with mostly just gave instructions, that's it, and I was not improving. I'm NOT saying it's always a case, I'm saying it was my personal experience. Now, it's not for everyone, because 1) majority of time it's not sugar-coating, 2) not everyone likes to be corrected constantly, 3) those seasoned instructors make you work very hard during a lesson and not everyone likes/can handle it.

And the most important: the great rider is not necessarily a good trainer. Very often it's former but not latter. The instructor you posted is no doubt a good rider, but she sounds green as a trainer. Again, it's all a matter of taste. If you like her - give it a try!
     
    10-10-2011, 01:17 PM
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Weanling
I 100% agree with many of your points KV!

Rachel, as KV pointed out, if you are truly interested in dressage then you would benefit most from a proven and knowledable dressage trainer. For eventers, dressage is only a piece of the puzzle. That's not a cut at eventers, but you can not expect someone who is spread across many levels to have the detailed analysis and instruction of someone who practices dressage exclusively.

With that said, I still think these people are worth a try depending on what you want and what works for you. You mentioned that you will still be working with your current trainer which leads me to believe that you want to supplement your jumping with some dressage (an excellent idea). As someone who moved from hunt seat (low-level eventing) into dressage, I can tell you first-hand that you will face challenges that complete newbies have no problems with, simply because you will need to retrain your position. So an eventer may be able to translate dressage in a way you understand and may be able to relate to these kinds of challenges a little more personally.

I don't think you will know until you try them out. Read through the dressage threads on here and get an idea of what the basic principles are (sounds like you know where to look since you've already stated that you aren't interested in over-bitting your horse). If the potential trainers have some theories that don't sound right, make a note to reasearch and question it.

Just my personal views on it. I'm sure you will find something that works for you! =)
     
    10-10-2011, 05:39 PM
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Thank you both, The biggest problem I have is that there is not a lot of trainers to choose from especially when it comes to dressage. Even less if I want to be able to use my horse. I like Val(my current instructor) but I really want to get into dressage and she is more into jumping and just basic english and western. For as long as I've been riding I haven't progresses as far as I feel I should. I've been riding since I was 12(13 years) and when I was young I was pretty confident then when I was 19 my friend got bucked off my gelding Skip and got kicked in the head(she was wearing a helmet) and hand, got a concussion and broken hand. A few months after that I found out I was pregnant and didn't start riding again until about a year and a half ago. When I started riding again I discovered I had a lot of fear I never had before. The whole point of that was to say that I am very nervous about going to another trainer because I feel like they are going to expect me to be further along then I am, I struggle with cantering a lot and I don't always pick up the right diagonal at the trot(although I can easily tell and change it). I'm scared of being picked apart and told that I completely suck lol. There are 2 barns that I could take lessons at, but I don't have a way to being my horse over there, but these are really the only places that do dressage lessons that I know of. Hidden Creek Equestrian Center o
Lessons Bit-by-Bit Equestrian Center
Both places I've heard are pretty show oriented(not something I'm very interested in) and I have heard that they are kinda snobby(for lack of a better word) I'm just not sure that I would like a barn like that. Bit by bit is about 35-40 minutes away and hidden creek is about 20. I'm very shy and I'm quite nervous about going into a barn and inquiring about lessons.


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Originally Posted by Shasta1981    
You mentioned that you will still be working with your current trainer which leads me to believe that you want to supplement your jumping with some dressage (an excellent idea).
I've never really been into jumping at all but my current instructor has had me jump my past 2 lessons, I only agreed to jump because she said it would help my canter. I admit I don't hate jumping but I prefer keeping all 4 feet on the ground lol. I really want dressage to be my primary discipline and maybe supplement it with some jumping every now and then, although my horse loves to jump but she's too strong a jumper for me to jump her at this time.
     
    10-10-2011, 06:02 PM
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Weanling
I don't think any trainer is going to be disappointed with where you are in your riding. If anything, I mostly see trainers get excited when a student has their "ah ha!" moment. We all have things to work on with our riding! I would think of this as an opportunity to really better your riding.

As for snobs, I don't like that environment either. But people like that are everywhere, and not just at barns. Another person's negative attitude is their problem and doesn't have to dictate your behaviour in any way. Don't give up on what you want just because of that.

Why don't you drive out to these barns and watch a lesson? Get a feel for what they are for yourself and see if you are up to the challenge? Moving out of your comfort zone is hard, but so worth it.
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    10-10-2011, 07:44 PM
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Showing
Shasta already said it all. I think you have to go with what you feel comfortable about. Personally I don't care if barn is snobbish as long as the trainer is good (I went to such VERY fancy facility, and I just ignored what I didn't like). As for show-oriented, the majority of students working with my trainer show. I didn't even plan on showing this year when I came to her last summer, but she made us believe we can try and been very supportive of it (without being pushy), so I gave it a try. You never know - you may decide on showing when you start taking lessons!

My best advice would be same as Shasta's: go, watch some lessons in all barns you consider. Talk to instructor, talk to people in barn. Very often you can tell right away if you will fit into environment.

Wish you best luck! :)
     
    10-15-2011, 03:10 PM
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I got to watch Brianna's(the pleasant ridge farm instructor) dressage lesson with Becky(the eventing instructor) on tuesday and I really did learn quite a bit just from watching, Becky seemed to know quite a bit about dressage. Brianna has some of the same problems with her horse that I am having with Bella so getting to watch how Becky has her correct the problems with her horse gave me some tips on how to better work with Bella. I think Becky may be able to help me with Bella, at least for now. I'd still like to go to the 2 dressage barns in the area and watch but taking lessons with Becky would give me the huge advantage of being able to use my own horse and train her as I learn. Maybe I can alternate my lessons, taking 2 a month with Val(my current instructor) one with Becky and then one at one of the dressage barns. I'm leaning towards hidden creek since my friend took lessons there years ago and I got to watch her lesson once, and it's closer, but it is more expensive, I'm thinking if I can do a group lesson it will offset the cost a bit, there are 2 girls at my barn who are interested in dressage as well so maybe I can see if they would be interested in taking lessons with me.
     

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