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post #1 of 17 Old 11-14-2011, 05:46 PM Thread Starter
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Loop, M X F

I'm just starting to study my tests for next year, Training test 1 is fine, but TT2 I'm going to have to work at a bit more, for example, this loop, MXF, ridden at trot, optional sitting or rising.

So, to start off with it's obvious, ride the loop, OK, got that, but from this drawing, and please excuse my drawing skills, but yes this is as good as it gets



Question 1, is the way I have drawn the movement basically correct, a shallow bend to X and back to F, but obviously coming in a bit shallower to F because that is a tight bend as I drew it.

Question 2. The little blue curves show how I presume the horse will be bent at M X and F, but is it bend, straight, bend, straight bend, and if not when where and how does the bend change.

Question 3 If you decide to rise, I presume that you don't have to change the diagonal at all, LOL it will be a bit like a counter trot

I think that's it for now, and yes I will be going through it with my trainer, but I thought it would be a good one for discussion here, thanks.
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post #2 of 17 Old 11-14-2011, 08:44 PM
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I giggled at your drawing, GH. I have to say mine for the Test 1 was much worse when I was preparing for one. Now this gonna be my guess (as I honestly don't know), but I'd assume if you go from C to A you go straight/change the bend at -R- & P. I can ask my trainer next time I have a lesson (given I won't forget), but I'm curious to hear answers too.

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Loops look so simple but they can be quite tricky to ride. How you ride them can be dependent on your horses strengths and weaknesses.
I tend to ride them as follows, with small alterations depending on the horse.
On the right rein I will keep the horse bent lightly around my inside leg until just after the quarter line, ride straight briefly to establish a new outside rein, bend around my left leg until just before quarter line, straighten for new outside rein, then back around right leg for the corner.

Can explain more thoroughly later when I'm not on my phone.
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I'm just starting to study my tests for next year, Training test 1 is fine, but TT2 I'm going to have to work at a bit more, for example, this loop, MXF, ridden at trot, optional sitting or rising.

So, to start off with it's obvious, ride the loop, OK, got that, but from this drawing, and please excuse my drawing skills, but yes this is as good as it gets



Question 1, is the way I have drawn the movement basically correct, a shallow bend to X and back to F, but obviously coming in a bit shallower to F because that is a tight bend as I drew it. Yes - between "C" and "M" it 1/4 of a 10 meter circle and the same for between "F" and "A"

Question 2. The little blue curves show how I presume the horse will be bent at M X and F, but is it bend, straight, bend, straight bend, and if not when where and how does the bend change. It is establish bend C to M, keep right bend until just before you hit the 1/4 line, then straighten for a stride or 2 and start bending left, stay in left bend until just before 1/4 line then go to right bend, stay in right bend between F and A.

Question 3 If you decide to rise, I presume that you don't have to change the diagonal at all, LOL it will be a bit like a counter trot

I think that's it for now, and yes I will be going through it with my trainer, but I thought it would be a good one for discussion here, thanks.
Correct - if posting don't change even with horses change in bend.

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I rode a test with this movement in at a competition a couple of weeks ago and the only thing I can add to the previous replies, is that ideally there should be one clear STRAIGHT stride at X before you ask for left bend and head back towards the track.

I changed diagonals because I find it hard to rise on the wrong leg but it really doesn't matter either way.
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Hmm, thats what we generally call a simple serpentine, however normally its halfway between X and the wall! How strange ;D

Enjoyed the drawing though lol!
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post #7 of 17 Old 11-18-2011, 05:33 PM Thread Starter
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I can't help it, I'm graphically challenged,

I was sent this link by a person who took pity on me...


http://www.dressage.net.au/movements/loop.pdf

A far better drawing, and now I can 'see' how the bends should work
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post #8 of 17 Old 11-18-2011, 05:36 PM
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GH at least you're only graphically challenged.. me on the other hand.. I have more that a few daily challenges hahah!!

It could be called the MXF LOOP, modern art by GH and win loads of awards and be sold for loads hahaha
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Just be careful how you enter and pass through "M" and "K".
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post #10 of 17 Old 11-19-2011, 05:36 PM Thread Starter
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Sorry but I'm missing your point there?

I enter at A, halt at X then track Right (away from my watch) at C,

then yes I have to start the loop at M, but don't see where K comes in, apart from that's where I pick up the canter.

You are probably being awfully smart and making a joke, but it was totally wasted on me
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