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        07-22-2009, 09:16 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    Somebody at the barn (only HALF jokingly) suggested I tie my feet to the stirrups LOL doesn't sound too safe to me!!
         
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        07-22-2009, 09:17 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jubilee Rose    
    Oh, and ... just take it as a compliment being called Mary Poppins! She's AMAZING! She doesn't even need to ride because she flies!
    LOL!!!!!! Thanks Jubilee
         
        07-22-2009, 11:15 PM
      #13
    Started
    I understand your pain! Ben is so hard sided at times I got a really bad babit of turning my leg out to dig in my heels. Now I have to undo my bad habit.

    What I've noticed is I feel like I'm squeezing harder with more contact with my toes turned out. But when I use the inside of my calf, he responds much faster and better. I don't feel like I have contact, but I actually do.

    My only advice is just keep working at it. If you ride in half chaps, look to see where the rub marks are to know where you have been using your leg. My last pair was totally worn down on the back, but my new pair is getting proper rub marks, Yay!
         
        07-22-2009, 11:32 PM
      #14
    Foal
    I have been riding about 14 years and STILL have this habit. I was taught to ride like that as well, and was never corrected by any Trainer I've had in the past I don't know how many years.

    So I am right there with you... trying to get my inner calf on the horse.
    I just try to concentrate on my legs during riding, keeping and holding the right position. When they are in the right position, you will feel the difference. At least, I do. It brings my seat more forward and I can actually feel my hip rotate and my legs hug my horses sides better. It will help give you a more stable seat as well.

    Practice makes perfect!

    And really your toes aren't that bad, and no I don't suggest tying any part of your body while riding, let alone your feet. Not safe, you are 100% correct. :)
         
        07-23-2009, 12:22 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Thanks for the tips everyone Tonight I think I'm going to ride bareback and focus on trying to point my toes forward...it may be easier bareback to start with, since it seems like I naturally grip with the sides better that way.

    And 1dog, that's a great hint about the half chaps! I have an old pair of them, and the rub marks are on the inside, so I guess maybe I'm just being paranoid about my toes, maybe they really aren't all that bad after all! Thanks everyone, you've all made me feel so much better about my form!

    Now I'll just have to focus on turning them in just a bit more to perfect it
         
        07-23-2009, 06:11 PM
      #16
    Trained
    Stop thinking about riding with your toes forward - think about riding on the proper place on your calves. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Just ride on the inner back of your calves, if you try to change your feet - you will effect your heels and create a domino effect - just re-adjust where you ride on your calves.

    It's just as simple as that. It does not need to be made any more difficult than what it is.
         
        07-24-2009, 09:57 AM
      #17
    Super Moderator
    Just on comment side... I took lessons for one month last year. With "hunter/jumper" trainer (as she claims herself). VERY, very boring lessons, which basically taught me almost nothing useful (besides getting my money! ). This month I started to take lessons with really nice dressage trainer (recommended to me) and guess what - "hunter/jumper" one didn't even teach me to post correctly (forget about spaghetti fingers and all that lol!). So... It happens for sure!
         
        07-24-2009, 08:33 PM
      #18
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
    Just on comment side... I took lessons for one month last year. With "hunter/jumper" trainer (as she claims herself). VERY, very boring lessons, which basically taught me almost nothing useful (besides getting my money! ). This month I started to take lessons with really nice dressage trainer (recommended to me) and guess what - "hunter/jumper" one didn't even teach me to post correctly (forget about spaghetti fingers and all that lol!). So... It happens for sure!
    haha! Yeah but the trainer I've been working with for almost 3 years now IS a dressage trainer! He just taught me to stick my toes out when I was first learning to ride in order to teach me to keep my calves on the horse's sides (I never grew up around horses and had never ridden before so I was truly just learning then!) Now he's trying to have me unlearn it and point them a little more forward for dressage, and it's SO hard!

    I've never been trained hunter, but a couple of my friends at the barn have...they REALLY stick their toes forward it seems like! Is that one diff between dressage and hunter position? Do you naturally stick your toes out a little bit more in dressage vs hunter?
         
        07-24-2009, 08:53 PM
      #19
    Trained
    No, it just means you have a coach who isn't teaching you correctly. That is why it is very important that you find an educated, experienced coach who's results are not only in his riding, but his students.

    I've ridden in many a Dressag Clinic and NEVER has the Dressage Instructor ever said to ride on the back of your calves - that is very incorrect.

    You ride on the inner back of your calf, you have to have an angle - George Morris has discussed this in his Critique Columns *he's a hunter/jumper*

    I wish I were there in person to show you, I think you are making this more than what it really needs to be.
         
        07-29-2009, 07:49 AM
      #20
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hoofprints in the Sand    
    I've never been trained hunter, but a couple of my friends at the barn have...they REALLY stick their toes forward it seems like! Is that one diff between dressage and hunter position? Do you naturally stick your toes out a little bit more in dressage vs hunter?
    I was (and still is) VERY far from doing any hunting/jumping! Lol! I was taking lessons "green horse/green rider" so she'd help me with my position and how my horse(s) works. It obviously was not a case. I also took some group lessons on lesson horses (been there done it) to learn how to sit and communicate correctly. Guess what, neither trainer (I've been in 3 barns in all these years) really commented on my position (and I KNOW it's not perfect and clumsy at times (after long day)). Sounds like they are concentrated on something else (which is not good IMHO).

    Now I want to try Kiara the paint on jumping (next year as she's still too young), so I started those lessons with dressage trainer, who also trained for jumping and western pleasure (I know she competed in all that, and her daughter is on olimpic team). She really goes after my position on horse, how straight horse is and things like that. She said no canter until my horse will be straight as she should be.

    I'm sure you'll re-learn it. Something hard to accomplish is ALWAYS rewarding when you finally accomplish it! Good luck!
         

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