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    10-15-2010, 09:50 AM
Moorlands Totilas

So for those who haven't heard, shortly after WEGs Totilas' owners sold him. I just pulled this quote from EVENTING NATION --

--An article on about the Totilas sale mentions that current rumors suggest a sale price of 10 to 15 million Euros, and that the speculation is that Matthias Rath or Andreas Helgstrand are potential future riders for Totilas. However, the Edward Gal camp still seems to hold some hope the Edward will get to keep the ride. "

Can you even imagine paying that much for a horse? Granted, he's an amazing animal, but in my opinion he's a bit of a freak of nature and I wonder just how well he'll throw talent into his offspring. If they don't do absolutely incredible I feel like Totilas' breeding value will certainly go down. Of course people are going to expect his offspring to be amazing, and of course forget somewhere down the line that the mare has just as much, if not more, effect on how the foal will turn out. Totilas is an amazing animal, no doubt about it, he and Gal have beaten nearly every Grand Prix dressage record, but he's got a lot to live up to in the breeding department.
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    10-15-2010, 10:38 AM
Green Broke
Oh wow, I hadn't heard this yet!! That is shocking, and horrible for Edward Gal! I hope he can continue to ride him, but it sounds like it might go to the Germans.

If I had the money, I can completely imagine spending that much money on a horse like him. He's not a pet, he's a business. And he might not be able to throw that much talent into his offspring, but his first year standing he's already earned 1.4 million euro! If he can produce quality offspring (even if they aren't as spectacular as him) he will continue to bring in quite a cash flow.
    10-15-2010, 11:07 AM
If they are smart, they'll retire him to stud.
A straw of his semen is over 5000 Euro.

It's like Marilyn Monroe - would we still think her so beautiful and desirable had she aged??
If they keep showing the horse, he will go lame and then they have detracted from his value. He won 3 golds at WEG and broke a bunch of records, now is a great time to retire him to stud.
    10-15-2010, 11:10 AM
Ditto to what upnover said.
I too would spend that kind of money on that horse if I had it - Totilas is a FREAK of NATURE!! His and Edwards preformances are beyond anything I have ever seen - I am always left completely speechless, they are just, down right amazing in my opinion, it would be a shame to break up that team.
Nature of the business tho.
    10-15-2010, 11:38 AM
That's exactly it though, he's a freak of nature, similar to the way Secretariat was a freak of nature! And Secretariart wasn't know for throwing the best offspring. We didn't start to see real winners of his line until his grandkids were running around, and even then none of them were the next Secretariat.

Obviously, he'll be making a ton of money regardless of how well his offspring perform, just because people will have the hope that MAYBE just maybe their mare will put a foal on the ground just like daddy. I guess I'm just skeptical. XD

And I agree anebel, now is the time to retire him from competition. He's already at the top and won the biggest titles there are to win, there's not much else out there to do other than break his own records, which I doubt any horse will be able to top any time soon.
    10-15-2010, 12:18 PM
Green Broke
His owners perviously turned down 15 million euro so the offer is likely to have been well in excess of that

There is a rumor floating round the over here that Laura Bechtolsheimer may have been offered the ride.
    10-15-2010, 12:30 PM
Ooh, interesting. O_o It's definitely a blow to the Dutch team. After all, now Totilas, if he is competed, will be competing for the Germans! I guess I never mentioned the buyer is Paul Schockemohle, a former German show-jumper and now successful breeder.
    10-15-2010, 12:35 PM
Green Broke
Strange, doesnt mean that it will go to a german rider though, Paul Schockemohle currently owns horses that compete for several different countries, namely belguim and GB.

Laura B is british btw
    10-15-2010, 01:12 PM
Yeah, true, but it's just as likely. Hopefully he and Gal will work something out. I would like to see Gal continue to ride him.
    10-15-2010, 07:22 PM
Originally Posted by faye    
his owners perviously turned down 15 million euro so the offer is likely to have been well in excess of that

There is a rumor floating round the over here that Laura Bechtolsheimer may have been offered the ride.
She already has such a lovely horse though! But I guess having two 80% Grand Prix horses would be nice :P

Who does she train with BTW?

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