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post #11 of 142 Old 08-10-2009, 05:46 PM Thread Starter
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My point was that I know how much Spyder dislikes Parelli, so for her to post something like that makes me suspicious. I just wanted to make sure my thread didn't turn into anything negative. I posted it simply for the act of sharing Karen's way of training with others because I believe in it and what I've done so far with my horse has really helped him.

Karen has a lot of knowledge and experience under her belt. She has shown at high levels and is also a judge (the highest you can go). What she teaches and how she teaches it, to both horse and rider, is exactly what I had been looking for. She incorporates the parelli principles into her dressage training, which is why she calls it Dressage, Naturally. It's quite different from "traditional" (if you will) training styles.

I will choose someone who puts the horse first and has the same principles and values as myself. I will not choose someone just because they have a good reputation in the sport. That doesn't necessarily mean they put the horse first, it might just mean they are good at getting the job done.
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I've seen her and her horses, and whilst they are calm and happy, I wouldn't say they are collected. That's not saying much, since most competitive dressage horses aren't collected either.

Look up Philippe Karl. If you want to do dressage, in the best way possible, that man is a genius and puts the horse before anything else. I find that people like Karen treat the horse like a friend, and their results are as such--happy, and good, but not great.

Philippe Karl treats his horses like human Olympic athletes. With respect, careful consideration for the gymnastic abilities and exercises, and a quiet knowledge that is just amazing. Those horses don't love their work because they're being told their awesome by their 'friend'--those horses love their work because they are ridiculously proud of what they can accomplish. They are proud of their work.

And to see a horse proud of it's work--proud of itself--THAT is what true dressage is about.

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My point was that I know how much Spyder dislikes Parelli, so for her to post something like that makes me suspicious.

Maybe the next time I will just not bother to convince the Admin that a NH section would be nice for those that practice it or that a Dressage section would also be useful.

I will try to be less helpful in the future.
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Ok, now we are just being melodramatic Spyder. This is the kind of thing I was hoping to AVOID when posting this. What's so wrong with combining the idea of NH and Dressage? Nothing. If we take the best from both worlds, we have it all.
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No one has said that combining dressage and NH was a bad idea. They were simply asking questions about your choice, as well as mentioning other dressage trainers that may be another option. In short, they were just reminding you to keep your mind open to more than one technique or trainer.

I feel as if you were the one who became overly defensive and took offense to a post that was not meant to be offensive or disrespectful.
Back to the topic, I do agree with mayfield and Spyder that there may be a better choice out there. However, I wish you luck on starting dressage, no matter which trainer you pick!
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I don't see how I became defensive. I simply stated I didn't want this to become an anti-Parelli thread. There was not one defensive fiber in my body.

I appreciate the other recommendations, however as of right now I'm content with learning from Karen. That was the point of this thread, so show others who I picked to learn from.
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No one has said that combining dressage and NH was a bad idea. They were simply
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asking questions about your choice, as well as mentioning other dressage trainers that may be another option. In short, they were just reminding you to keep your mind open to more than one technique or trainer.

I feel as if you were the one who became overly defensive and took offense to a post that was not meant to be offensive or disrespectful.
Back to the topic, I do agree with mayfield and Spyder that there may be a better choice out there. However, I wish you luck on starting dressage, no matter which trainer you pick!
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Spyder, be thankful that there aren't quotes being thrown at us. Lol.

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^ Oh gosh, I hate that.

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Ok, now we are just being melodramatic Spyder. This is the kind of thing I was hoping to AVOID when posting this. What's so wrong with combining the idea of NH and Dressage? Nothing. If we take the best from both worlds, we have it all.

I have never in any post here or anywhere stated that these two can or cannot be combined. At this moment I have no opinion one way or the other.

The reference to the different sections is that it was me that backed and suggested the sections to be added to this forum in the beginning so to be suspicious and defensive on your post in this section is extremely premature. The continuation of that mode is also without reason.

Since I know you are a parelli follower and you are looking at dressage and since either way you would be buying and following DVD instruction it would be normal to ask why you would not have gone to Parelli DVD for she is the epitome of the combination of the two disciplines.
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