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  • Dressage half halt and "the give"
  • What side whn posting trot do you half halt?

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    07-18-2011, 11:08 PM
  #41
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Originally Posted by Shasta1981    
Woohoo! More spyder-isms! =)

Would it relate by way of containment of the energy within the half halt, coupled with the shortened stride which directs the movement up instead of out?
So HOW would it be enacted upon the horse.
     
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    07-19-2011, 09:02 AM
  #42
Weanling
By asking for more impulsion with the leg and making more room for the back to come up under your seat? Am I on the right track?
     
    07-19-2011, 09:44 AM
  #43
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Originally Posted by Shasta1981    
By asking for more impulsion with the leg and making more room for the back to come up under your seat? Am I on the right track?

That is a generalization of what you would like accomplished.

So you have a horse that is going forward with decent impulsion and you are now beyond training level so you need to up your game.

No longer will a a "nice trot" be acceptable to get a good mark. And you see horses now at this level that have that "lift", cadence and animation that suspension will bring.

Knowing what you do know what is your plan of action.

How will you accomplish getting each leg to give you that animation without creating any stiffness?
     
    07-19-2011, 02:45 PM
  #44
Weanling
Well what I know about stiffness is that there has to be a release to avoid it. So wouldn't the give from the inside rein for flexion and the inside leg for the bend in the body be the moment when he can step through and achieve a supple, relaxed trot? I guess what I mean is, wouldn't the release give the whole body fluidity? And if you are capturing the energy in the front with your hand and using the outside rein to keep him round when you do ask for more wouldn't that bring the lift we are talking about?
     
    07-19-2011, 02:52 PM
  #45
Showing
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Originally Posted by Spyder    
How will you accomplish getting each leg to give you that animation without creating any stiffness?
I'd just show my horse a neighbor's gelding. THEN her trot becomes VERY interesting, high and wide, and the back is as round as one can dream of. Unfortunately not for long...
     
    07-19-2011, 04:31 PM
  #46
Green Broke
I would work off a leg yield - asking for lateral softnes while encouraging the engagement of the back muscles and allowing for some of the forwards energy to be converted into suspension.

Without losing the 'forwards' motion as defined by the training pyramid?
     
    07-19-2011, 06:13 PM
  #47
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You are talking all around it.

Things to remember.

A half halt given on the left side influences the right side of the horse...however the trot is a diagonal gait...soooooooo what about the side you did not give the half halt on?

Do you let that other diagonal just "go along" ??
     
    07-19-2011, 08:39 PM
  #48
Weanling
So the opposite side should be half halted immediately following the original half halt?
     
    07-19-2011, 08:48 PM
  #49
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Originally Posted by Shasta1981    
So the opposite side should be half halted immediately following the original half halt?
Coming along, so just what aids, in what order, to affect what leg, when?
     
    07-19-2011, 10:13 PM
  #50
Weanling
I'm trying to think of how this would work without miscommunicating with the horse... If you ask for something and get it I'm not sure how you would ask for it again without it being perceived as a correction. Am I starting to make it more complicated than it actually is?
     

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