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    09-08-2011, 09:43 PM
New Horse barn sour or something else??

Hi gals,
I'm just starting in dressage been riding English and western for years but just getting started in dressage.

I have a new WB/TB cross I think his wb IS KWPN. I've only ridden him twice. Yesterday and today. He is 7 years old. First time was ok he was resistant to leaving the house and kept stopping every few steps until we got to the arena (down the street) and there were other horses there then he was better. We mostly walked around the arena just getting used to each other. I was later told that he had not been ridden in 4 years. He acts like a horse that has not been ridden for years. And I don't have any ides of his level of training but he is not trained to slow down stop with the seat only the reigns. I know the lady who rode him before wore spurs. I don't.

So today I went for my 2nd ride and he was a LOT more resistant to going forward away from home. (coming home he seemed frisky and fine no problems at all)
He kept backing up and refusing to move forward if we were pointed away from home. This was after riding for about 20 minutes. I don't know if he was possibly sore from yesterday or just being more stubborn. I didn't want to start really getting on to him if there was something wrong..... like he was uncomfortable or something. We rode in the same saddle and same bridle as yesterday. Yesterday he was barely sweating and today he was sweating alot more....(yesterday temp was about 75 today 81 degrees)

Could he be sore or is he just being ornery? Also don't know if this counts but he is stubborn in general. Very loving sweet horse but he is on charge of the other horses and when I lead him I sometimes have to use a riding crop to get him to lead. I just tap tap tap him on the but and that gets him moving. Is this the same thing happening when I'm in the saddle??
And if so what do I do about it?
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    09-12-2011, 07:44 PM
Originally Posted by WildAcreFarms    
I've only ridden him twice. Yesterday and today. He is 7 years old. First time was ok he was resistant to leaving the house and kept stopping every few steps until we got to the arena (down the street) and there were other horses there then he was better. We mostly walked around the arena just getting used to each other. I was later told that he had not been ridden in 4 years. He acts like a horse that has not been ridden for years.

That's because he hasn't been ridden in years. And you have only ridden him twice. This is most likely the problem. He's 7 and has not been ridden in 4 years. This means he was ridden when he was 3. Most 3 year olds are pretty green. In all aspects, you will have to train him. I think you are lucky to have gotten to the arena! Not to be harsh but I'd think of him as a pretty blank slate when it comes to riding. Also, don't let him start pushing you around just because you think he is sweet. You need to demand respect sooner, rather than later.

Did you check to see if his saddle fits? You can watch videos online about saddle fitting.
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    09-13-2011, 01:57 AM
Yeah forgive the stupid post. I know what to do.......

He's a green horse I just need to treat him as such. I've bought and sold many OTTBS and trained them for jumpers, it's just been a few years.....

We are backing up to ground work. His saddle and bridal/bit fits well and YES I've watched all the online videos on saddle fit. That was my first thought too ill fitting something or something causing him pain like teeth or?? But that was before I realized how long it's been since he has been ridden and how young he was when that happened.

His ground manners suck and that's were we need to start, at the beginning.

Thanks :)
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    09-13-2011, 10:40 AM
I didn't want to state the obvious about him being so green under saddle but your response today sounds like you are getting on track and are doing fine. He will probably enjoy being worked with again.
    09-13-2011, 09:37 PM
Yeah LOL I couldn't believe it when I "did the math" and realized how young he was that he couldn't have had much training. Jeez the lady I got him from
(skinny as a rail) acted like she had been riding him for years.... I'm super lucky he didn't buck me off when I got on him......

Which I NEVER would have done if Id known he hadn't been ridden in 4 years.
Sheesh..... that is something you should tell someone that buys/adopts a horse from you!! She said "OH yeah we ride him all the time, he's a sweetie blah blah blah...... " then when I call her and ask her later she says
That he has not been ridden in 4 years!

Well we started ground work leading and lounging today and he did good. I don't think he has ever been lounged either....also working on some clicker training and positive reinforcement.
Thanks again and Well keep everyone posted on how he does :)
    09-13-2011, 10:40 PM
I would have his teeth checked. Just something I do every year since I have found it improves the performance & health of horses. Just like the vaccinces, done every year.
    09-13-2011, 11:00 PM
Green Broke
I had similar experiences with the last two horses I bought. When I bought the Mustang the owner told me he was rode by someone interested in him the week before. So I take him home on trial, ride him everywhere, he is nervous but wonderfully trained and respectful. So I buy him. Then found out that except for the one ride by another potential buyer, he hadn't been ridden in two years. Gee, it would have been nice to know that when I brought him home, lol! No wonder he was a bit nervous. I just figured he was a high strung horse at a new place. Turns out with regular riding he is Mister Mellow.

The last horse I bought, my Fox Trotter, would leave home the first time, but then if say I forgot something and had to go back, she would refuse to leave home the second time. I took to carrying a crop and whacking her on the butt if she refused to move. Luckily she isn't a very dominant horse and after a few whacks she stopped refusing to leave and I haven't had a problem since.

So almost two years have gone by and I ran into her old owner, and he tells me how much trouble he had with her and how she would have fits and throw herself down, and how he hated her and all that, and I'm thinking, gee, I sure didn't hear any of this before I bought her. So I said "luckily she hasn't done that with me," and he's like "of course not, she had a good trainer" (meaning himself). Ah, the stories you hear only AFTER you buy the horse, lol! :roll:
    09-14-2011, 06:30 PM
Lol no kidding

OMG so true so true.
That's a hilarious story!
And I totally am having the same experience with my bog Boy.
    09-16-2011, 12:24 AM
WildAcreFarms, if I knew then about my horse what I know now, honestly, I don't know if I would have bought my horse. I probably would have been too critical. But luck was with me and she turned out to be a good horse. She was looking for a good owner and I was looking for something with potential. We ended up being a good match.

But it was probably because I didn't know anything, and gave her a chance, that she became a great addition to my family.
    09-16-2011, 12:02 PM
Thank you so much for putting it to me like that. It's like I can think
"hey it's great he is a clean slate with the potential to do anything!"
rather than GRRRR "gosh dern it this darn horse doesn't know anything!!"

It's all about how you look at it. He is a great hose, he's GORGEOUS sweet and calm he just is a bit of a bully probably because he's 17hh and nobody has really worked with him until now. he's coming along really well and since I've backed up to the beginning and we are establishing our language he totally respects me more!! No kidding. I'm amazed. For instance he goes and quietly stands by his feed bucket waiting for his feed now and before he was always trying to steal his feed from me.....

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