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    01-02-2010, 01:25 PM
  #61
Weanling
Exactly.
     
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    01-02-2010, 01:28 PM
  #62
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
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That's the problem though. It's not a mistake. It's happening OVER and OVER again. The judges NEED to be held accountable, because in the end, it's THEM that are causing this epidemic. If they'd just stop placing artifical horses that are so clearly deviating from what the discipline standard is supposed to be, everything would change. They hold the power to control peoples ravaging hunger for money and fame, and it all boils down to what is winning and what is not. And that is a direct result of judging decisions.
haha ok I never thought of it THAT way
I thought totalis's performance was stunning, maybe that's why im not an olympic judge XD I would give every cute horse a 99%
     
    01-02-2010, 01:30 PM
  #63
Green Broke
I hear you ridergirl! I'm not an expert in Dressage and my first impression was that it was a gorgeous test - which is unfortunately, the biggest problem of all. It's easy to get away with technically abusive techniques when you're catering to the non-experienced world. I mean, if we as horse people thought it looked good, imagine what people who know NOTHING about horses think? Flash sells, and it's only a bonus for any discipline world if they can be so flashy that they can attract even non-horse people into watching and enjoying.
     
    01-02-2010, 05:12 PM
  #64
Trained
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Originally Posted by ridergirl23    
ok, haha this is one of thosee fine debates when you learn something. After seeingthose videos I do agree, I don't think he deserved that mark. BUT I don't think any judges accepted any bribe or anything, lets not point fingers(until someone shows me proof I will stand bythis statement, btu I am open to any facs that they did). I don't blame any judges, yes, they really should know better, but they made a mistake, lets not beat up a ref just because he missed a call. :)
No, it's not about bribery. It's about judges being too **** scared to knock the top birdies off their perch. Imagine what would happen if they knocked Anky, Isabell, Edward etc. etc. off their top spots and stuck a classical rider in their place? There would be uproar!!! They will stick to marking up the flashy horses, because this is what the spectators and FEI want. To make dressage a money making, spectator sport.
It's not about 'a ref missing a call', there are multiple judges the judge and FEI test, fair enough that ONE judge misses something because they're at a diffrent angle... but if every judge on that panel missed that Totilas, Salinero, Satchmo... are all stuck in a frame, tense, forces etc. Then they are blind.
     
    01-02-2010, 05:59 PM
  #65
Yearling
I have to disagree about the 'no interest' comment on the olympic thing. I've heard several times that it was about judging discrepancies/objectivity of the sport. If judges are always 5% or more off of each other... then the sport is too objective to be considered a 'sport'. Kind of like you don't have 'art judging' in the olympics, lol!

The only reason I state this is because there are PLENTY of lame olympic sports that have almost ZERO people in the stands, and they are not in danger of being cut.
     

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