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post #11 of 34 Old 05-18-2009, 08:58 PM Thread Starter
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yes, Spyder. And I didn't refer to her as an AWB you notice!

Well not in your POST you didn't.....it is in your signature though.

Until any horse has been approved by its registry (if that is the requirements) it can't be what that registry represents.

You do have a nice mare and if it were mine I would be proud of her even if she is a TB cross or draft cross or approved AWB.
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I am proud of her! She's awesome! I haven't done my signature in a long time. She's not even six anymore

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as a disclaimer to this question... I really am just curious. Not meaning to be malicious or snooty....

If a TB wasn't registered (but has a pedigree and is of a respectable mare and sire) but was going to be registered by a racing breeder and only wasn't registered because she was too small to even try to put her on the track, would she still be considered a TB? I was wondering if in this instance she would represent her breed even though she wasn't registered...

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For me, if she conformationally was a good representation of the breed, she should be registered and be fine. If she is all sorts of a train wreck in the conformation department, I'd think twice.

Of course, it wasn't my opinion you were asking for... :P
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well she can't be registered because she's too small. She was born at a race barn and was just too tiny for them to put a tattoo on and register her. I was just wondering if she would still be considered a TB even though the Jockey Club can't take her purely because of her height. She's got great confo and great bloodlines

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I would consider her a TB even if she is not registered. She is from TB lines, she is out of TB parents - so therefore she is a TB. Pedigree'd - no, but TB none-the-less.

Now a Draft Cross is just that - a Draft Cross. While a QH is a QH - am I making sense?
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Its not about WBs or any other breed. It's about the conformation and movement of the horse. It's about how they move and are put together. Many WBs are bred for the higher levels of dressage and jumping, while Tbs are more preferred for sports like eventing, but you can still see TBs in dressage and GP jumping, and in hunters and other disciplines. In short though there are breeds for a reason - they are bred for a purpose. Can a TB that is built right do reining? Sure probably. However it's less likely. Just like it's less likely to see a WB working cattle. And less likely to see a mustang at olympic levels of dressage.

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Well said CJ82Sky.
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as a disclaimer to this question... I really am just curious. Not meaning to be malicious or snooty....

If a TB wasn't registered (but has a pedigree and is of a respectable mare and sire) but was going to be registered by a racing breeder and only wasn't registered because she was too small to even try to put her on the track, would she still be considered a TB? I was wondering if in this instance she would represent her breed even though she wasn't registered...

When it comes to pure breds a TB or Arab for example will still be that breed but to be correct they actually become grade horses. But my post was referring to your draft cross which now become a type and not a breed.

The thing is there really shouldn't be any grade horses because there are registries that they can be accepted into.
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thanks for the clarification MIEventer. That's what I thought (regarding the TB mare). I was just confused as one of the post said that a horse cannot be a certain breed if they are not registered.

I usually don't get into breed discussions but some just confuse me! Especially surrounding Draft/WB. I'm just ready to move on, ya know? I love my horse for what she is 3/4 TB 1/4 Shire, Shire Sporthorse, TB Sporthorse, TB Cross, Shire Cross, AWB, WHATEVER! Haha

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