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    12-27-2009, 11:42 AM
  #11
Trained
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They probably will laugh.

Your biggest difficulty will be in getting him to get the hind quarters under himself to be effective. It may never truly happen but there is nothing wrong with you working at it anyways.

He just will be limited somewhat in what he can accomplish and how well he can do it.

I was laughed at because I was showing a 15.2hh half arab ( and I am 5' 9" ) that only cost me $250.00. When I got to GP they stopped.
AH! I was going to say "ask Spyder"

Glad you posted!
     
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    12-27-2009, 01:26 PM
  #12
Super Moderator
If they laugh, they are only showing tremendous ignorance.

While it may be a bit harder for him to perform some movements, dressage is more a judge of a horse's heart than breeding. I have seen less gifted horses with huge hearts outperform the fanciest moving warmbloods with no heart.

I know of a 26 year old GP horse with a much more swayed back than yours. She still does wonderful piaffe and passage.

Go for it. Let the ignorants snicker. Get back at them through good training and simply beat them!!
     
    12-27-2009, 01:41 PM
  #13
Showing
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Originally Posted by Allison Finch    

While it may be a bit harder for him to perform some movements, dressage is more a judge of a horse's heart than breeding.
That sounds very altruistic but I can't believe that it's true. A dressage horse is scored on his movements and how well they are performed not the "try" that is in him.

That isn't to say that he would not benefit from the training. Although I do not nor have ever shown in Dressage, I do follow it and watch it whenever I can. The scores are always based on performance. You are correct in that breed has little to do with it.
     
    12-27-2009, 02:12 PM
  #14
Green Broke
MIEventer -yep I have kind of been all over the place, I know what I want to do (dressage and jumping), its just been a matter of finding a horse! I decided after trying a bunch of "pretty" horses out that I really need an old dead head horse so I can work on me for a bit, and get my confidence back.


Major moves really well, collects and goes onto the bit, moves off of leg pressure and is pretty sensitive to seat aids. I know that our biggest challenge is going to be getting him to round, but how much of that do they really expect at training level? My QH gelding was terrible about that and we did decently at the one dressage show I took him to.

I know little of his history other than he has been used as a beginner lesson horse the last 5 years or so.

Oh, and I have no plans of taking him much past training level, just want to get my feet a little wet.
     
    12-27-2009, 02:29 PM
  #15
Green Broke
If I had a school master I would compete him anyway! If he was sound of course. I bet a nice cosey sheep skin would cover it up for the most part, you can go into that dressage ring with a 'ha, my horse has a swayed back and were still better that you!' attitude
     
    12-27-2009, 03:10 PM
  #16
Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by iridehorses    
That sounds very altruistic but I can't believe that it's true. A dressage horse is scored on his movements and how well they are performed not the "try" that is in him.
Their performance of a movement reflects in their DESIRE to do it. I have seen many horses who simply put more of themselves into their job. I have also seen many more gifted horses who do not have that desire. They hold too much in reserve. It shows loud and clear in their performance.

I'm surprised you don't think a horse who desires to please will not have this reflected in their overall performance.
     
    12-27-2009, 03:24 PM
  #17
Foal
If the horse's condition does not affect his movement and ability to give and bend then there should not be any problems score-wise. However I have the same condition and I do suffer a bit from it. Not unbearable pain but I do have some problems and sence your horse can't talk to you, Im affraid you can't say without a shadow of a doubt that he is not in pain. Warm him up slowly. Lots of trot work(this builds back muscles) and lots of bending,flexing, sidepasses etc.
     
    12-27-2009, 05:56 PM
  #18
Weanling
I know that dressage judges are supposed to judge different than breed show judges but I have found some dressage judges who'd be better off judging a quarter horse show (not saying AQHA is bad, I show in it too xD). Some judges can be biased towards things like that which is unfortunate because not everyone can afford 18 hand European warmbloods. I say, if it's something you want to do and he is capiable of doing it, you should. You should get a riser pad and a very thick half pad to help fill in the "dip" and make it comfortable for him.
     
    12-27-2009, 07:34 PM
  #19
Green Broke
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But it sounds like it can take up to a month to arrive, so I guess I will get lots of balance and leg strengthening riding him around bareback!
     
    12-27-2009, 07:46 PM
  #20
Green Broke
Haha this 'they will laugh' thing brings back GREAT memorys! My first horse was a little TB. The first time we went into the ring, you know what score we got? 40%.... how could you get lower then 40%???? But everyone in my barn kept me enjoying showing because we would all go out for dinner after and have a great time, they are like family :). The first year of me and my horse showing I was pretty much the laughing stock, and 'loser' of the shows, lol. I was actually really young, and I owe a lot to my mom and my trainer. They told me to keep going... you know what?> the next year we got first and second place throughout all the shows we went too! And we were at a higher level! Haha

Personally, I think one of the funniest things to do is prove everybody who laughs wrong, I don't think they would laugh at your horse, and I think you should show, and if they do laugh? Well, you can be sure you have something they don't have... a horse you love, and a horse that means more to you then any show or ribbons.......OR, you could just take that person out back and give 'em the ol' one two.lol. But I would love to see pictures when you guys do show!!! Your hrose is adorable!
     

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