Originally Posted by Trissacar
LOL! I didn't teach this horse his pirouettes so its pretty easy to collect him. I guess that's why I find it fun because he's so good about it. My trainer used to do them in the Grand prix jumpers for hard turns. My green tb its very hard to do on. She's like "NO I wanna run!"
MI Eventer is correct. In jumping they would be called rollbacks. A true pirouette would never be performed in jumping at any level. A well done correct pirouette takes a considerable amout of time from start to finish to complete one entire turn, whereas a rollback is a semblence of a very loose type of pirouette. It does not have the collection or suspension of a dressage pirouette and is done much quicker as it is typically done to cut down on time to get to the next fence.....and again usually in a jump off.
A correctly done dressage pirouette requires the hind legs to describe a very very small tight circle and maintain the correct canter striding with each step. The forehand is lifted somewhat as the haunches come under the horse's body and a lightened front end allows that forehand to move sideways and circle the haunches without falling on the inside shoulder (supported by the outside rein/leg).
The Western or even English rollback is a movement desighed to turn the horse back on itself at speed. It is possible the haunches may swing to the outside and away from the body of the horse but that would depend on just how good the horse is trained and how supportive the rider is in keeping control of the outside shoulder. It is also acceptable to turn the rollback where the horse is swiveling on just one hind foot and the actual canter gait will not be maintained throughout the entire movement.