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    04-14-2012, 10:04 PM
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Green Broke
Opinion On Possible Purchase for Dressage..

What do you guys think of this guy.

He's an Andalusian gelding, although they do not state his age I need to find that out. Has been used this past year as a lesson horse for Dressage and from the video he can pretty much "take it" without too much fight or argument. He's a bit racy in tempo but I think that is due to the rider and that he might be a good fit for my current level.

     
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    04-14-2012, 10:06 PM
  #2
Trained
Pass! I do not like him at all! Looks to have poor conformation ontop of a bad training. And that rider is horrible!

He has too much knee action going on. From what I've seen of dressage, don't you want straight, smooth legs when trotting? Everything looks choppy and very uncontrolled.
     
    04-14-2012, 10:10 PM
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Trained
In a word, no, JMHO> doesn't look like the horse for you. Too many reasons why he is not a good choice.
     
    04-14-2012, 10:18 PM
  #4
Green Broke
Like I said, the rider isn't the greatest, but I like that he's dealing with it pretty well. There are some other vids of her riding other horses and they ALL look like the thing they want most is to be able to run right out from under her. Saddle on wrong, yanking hands, bad cues. Be interesting to test drive... I know I'm not the greatest rider, but if the horse is even a little better then I think it might be a good project horse.

I've never head of the straight legs for dressage, you have to have knee action for passage and the such.
     
    04-14-2012, 10:27 PM
  #5
Trained
Cinny, you are correct. I just watched this video and I see lots of knee action. I think what I was thinking of was when they are moving out really forwardly, their legs straighten out.


It can't hurt to go try him out. I'm just wondering how much retraining you'll have to do with him to get him even at a level to compete at or even have a successful ride at home, or if he'll frustrate you the way Cinny did.

I think a better prospect is out there with your name on him/her.
     
    04-14-2012, 10:41 PM
  #6
Banned
I am currently taking lessons and working at an equestrian center, and from what I know (which I admit is not a lot) that horse is not worth it. Although its hard to say because the saddle is over his shoulders which is effecting his movement and the rider is a disaster. I would be curious to see another video of him with a different rider.
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    04-14-2012, 10:48 PM
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Green Broke
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Originally Posted by SarahAnn    
I am currently taking lessons and working at an equestrian center, and from what I know (which I admit is not a lot) that horse is not worth it. Although its hard to say because the saddle is over his shoulders which is effecting his movement and the rider is a disaster. I would be curious to see another video of him with a different rider.
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So would I. He's a few hours away so IF I decide he may be worth a test drive, I'll probably video to see how WE mesh together.
     
    04-14-2012, 11:06 PM
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Please post it here if you do go and get a video!! I am really curious now. The place I am working at is a really nice place with very advanced riders so I could be unintentionally "snobby" because that's all I have been exposed to as far as dressage.
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    04-14-2012, 11:14 PM
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Green Broke
I know what you mean. I think sometimes the trick to watching these for sale vids is to pick everything apart. So basically when a horse is being ridden badly, you try to find all of the things it could cause, or try to pick apart it's reactions and try to determine if it's because of something the rider is doing. Judging from her other videos, I think 75% of this horse's movement is based on rider error and fear of rider and a need for a vacation of a few months in pasture to start off with.
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    04-14-2012, 11:29 PM
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Poor boy! I think he's really cute and her appears to be supremely tolerant of whatever that lady thinks she's doing.

I was looking through more videos and it appears like she/someone is training him to rear? And he's considering doing it undersaddle as an evasion?
I've dealt with that kind of rearing with Lacey, those little "I'd like to rear if you don't stop but I know it's against the 'rules'" ones and even though she doesn't do it anymore, it's always an "option" for her. I can't ever push her very far because if I do, she's going up. It's a real pain.

Personally, I'd pass on this guy as a dressage horse. As a project/"rescue," I'd take him if I could.

Here's the video of him rearing:


And the one where he's evading whatever she's trying to get him to do by hop-rearing. :(



ETA- I did see a video of him at liberty and he looked SO much better. Stretching his neck down, relaxed gaits, a little playful but not disrespectful, he looked like a real sweetie without a rider! Lol
     

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