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    03-22-2011, 03:02 PM
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Green Broke
Preparing for first Dressage Show, I have so many questions.

So, I have downloaded my patterns and have been working on memorizing them, etc. I am going to be showing Intro test A and test B in 2 weeks!

A question on Intro test A, when doing a rein change at a working trot such as this or in any serpentine I have always changed my diagonal right where I change direction (in this case it would be at X)...but I noticed on a lot of YouTube videos that many people usually don't change their diagonal until later when they actually reach C even when they have changed rein, instead of doing it at X. Which is correct?

Also in A, the test form shows to enter working trot rising and between X & C transition to medium walk, then track right. But I see people stop and Salute at X first...so confused on this one, again, which is correct?

During the rein change transition, is it correct to ask my horse to change his bend..at X?

When tests ask for movements that go H-X-F (for example) is it proper to do a perfect straight line, or remain in your bend and ride it as a part of circles, changing rein and bend at X?

I think that is it for my questions except, what does the bell mean? I know it's probably a stupid question but again, I have never even watched a Dressage show and since my trainer is competing against me, she has opted to be of no help, counsel, etc ....and will not coach me for this show :(

Thanks for any help.
     
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    03-22-2011, 03:11 PM
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Trained
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Originally Posted by Cinnys Whinny    
So, I have downloaded my patterns and have been working on memorizing them, etc. I am going to be showing Intro test A and test B in 2 weeks!

A question on Intro test A, when doing a rein change at a working trot such as this or in any serpentine I have always changed my diagonal right where I change direction (in this case it would be at X)...but I noticed on a lot of YouTube videos that many people usually don't change their diagonal until later when they actually reach C even when they have changed rein, instead of doing it at X. Which is correct?
Technically speaking on a diagonal the bend and direction do not actually change until about 2m from the wall, so if you are crossing the arena at MXK you would remain in right flexion and bend and on the right posting diagonal until K.
However, on a serpentine it is correct to change flexion, bend and posting diagonal over the centerline.

Also in A, the test form shows to enter working trot rising and between X & C transition to medium walk, then track right. But I see people stop and Salute at X first...so confused on this one, again, which is correct?
I have not read the test, but I am assuming that they have adapted it to make it easier for novice horses and riders by completely scrapping the halt and salute at the beginning of the test. Do as the written test you are riding says.

During the rein change transition, is it correct to ask my horse to change his bend..at X?
I don't understand your question. I may have answered it in your first question?

When tests ask for movements that go H-X-F (for example) is it proper to do a perfect straight line, or remain in your bend and ride it as a part of circles, changing rein and bend at X?
The line is straight, however the horse is bent around the "old" inside leg until the final letter. I also think I answered this in your first question.

I think that is it for my questions except, what does the bell mean? I know it's probably a stupid question but again, I have never even watched a Dressage show and since my trainer is competing against me, she has opted to be of no help, counsel, etc ....and will not coach me for this show :(
The bell means that you are allowed to enter the ring and begin your test and have 45 seconds to do so. If you enter and begin your test before the bell you will be eliminated and if you enter more than 45 seconds after the bell you will also be eliminated.

Personally, I would not be showing if my coach would not help me at the show.. Is there another show you can do? You will want as much support and help as possible at your first dressage show.

Thanks for any help.
My responses are all in pretty pink :)
     
    03-22-2011, 03:51 PM
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Annabel answered everything so, I wont' even go there.
I just wanted to say that I am floored that your coach wont' be of any assistance to you. That is bizarre. Just because she is competeing against you doesn't mean anything. You are her student, her protege, in her tutelage, her care. She should be there for you. Most coaches go with their students of possible, and they are paid a fee, as if they are giving you a lesson.

If this is just a schooling show, I think you should go for it. It's about learning, so who cares if coach not there or not helping (though it lowers her in my eyes). Check it out, observe, see how it feels to be in that arena, hear the bell and keep your pattern in your mind. Good practice.

I get insanely nervous, but I actually prefer to have my test memorized than have it read to me (which is permitted at schooling shows in the lower levels). But, it's amazing how it all comes back to you.
I practice my test a lot, unmounted, on the rectangular living room carpet. I walk and trot it myself, as if I am on a horse, and visualize how I will prepare for each movement. I literally hold my hands as if holding reins and do the little adjustments of finger/wrist and core muscles that I owuld be doing as I half-halted, started a free walk, came out of the free walk, came to the halt, whatever . . .. Do it so many times that you know that pattern inside and out.
I memorize it like a visual image in my head, something like the dancing patterns of bees communicating to the hive!
     
    03-22-2011, 07:52 PM
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Question - on change of rein if it is straight on the diagonal I believe that the horse is judged on straightness. Am I misunderstanding that?
     
    03-22-2011, 08:04 PM
  #5
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Originally Posted by CJ82Sky    
question - on change of rein if it is straight on the diagonal I believe that the horse is judged on straightness. Am I misunderstanding that?
I think this is correct.

Also, you DO halt and salute at X. It sounds like it was worded strange on your test.

Like the others, I think it is extremely weird that your instructor won't help you at the show. You are doing Intro Level, correct? Is your instructor competing at that level? Otherwise she isn't competing against you, just competing at the same show.

Just wanted to add that if she is competing at Intro Level as well, I might be looking into getting a new trainer. I like to have a trainer that is much more advanced than I am!
     
    03-22-2011, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dressage10135    
I think this is correct.

Also, you DO halt and salute at X. It sounds like it was worded strange on your test.

Like the others, I think it is extremely weird that your instructor won't help you at the show. You are doing Intro Level, correct? Is your instructor competing at that level? Otherwise she isn't competing against you, just competing at the same show.

Just wanted to add that if she is competing at Intro Level as well, I might be looking into getting a new trainer. I like to have a trainer that is much more advanced than I am!
no they changed the one intro test (last I checked) that only one has a halt salute. The other does not. No idea why.... but I was working with my students on that!

And ty re: bend v. Straight. Corners and circles are bent, straighaways, diagonals are straight is what my one trainer always used to say!
     
    03-22-2011, 08:13 PM
  #7
Yearling
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Originally Posted by CJ82Sky    
no they changed the one intro test (last I checked) that only one has a halt salute. The other does not. No idea why.... but I was working with my students on that!

And ty re: bend v. Straight. Corners and circles are bent, straighaways, diagonals are straight is what my one trainer always used to say!
Really?! That's weird! Thanks for clarifying.

Yep that's what I was taught too.
     
    03-22-2011, 08:29 PM
  #8
Green Broke
This is the test I'm referring to, sorry for the confusion. http://www.usdf.org/docs/tests/dressage/introa.pdf

Anebel, thank you so much, you have cleared up everything. Yay.

There are some interesting things with my trainer (I've only been with her since February) that I have never run into with any other trainer. For one, she hasn't informed me of any of the schooling shows, though I told her I wanted to start entering them. I found out about this one the day entries closed by my friend, and I scraped my way in last minute. My trainer acted shocked that I had entered and tried to convince me that I had passed the deadline and shouldn't even bother, then informed me she doesn't coach people when she shows PERIOD, and would not trailer me either because she doesn't want to chance other horses in the trailer with hers. My next lesson I was set on learning Intro A and B tests so I could work on them the next two weeks, but instead she had me work on canter halt canter transitions until we ran out of time. I have come to the conclusion that with shows, I am completely on my own.

I know what you ALL are going to say....time to reconsider the trainer...

Oh AND...on a last note, they now have 3 intro tests. Test C requires canter 20m circles.
     
    03-22-2011, 09:17 PM
  #9
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Yes lol time for a new trainer!
And good luck and most importantly have FUN at the show :)
     
    03-22-2011, 10:16 PM
  #10
Banned
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Originally Posted by Cinnys Whinny    
This is the test I'm referring to, sorry for the confusion. http://www.usdf.org/docs/tests/dressage/introa.pdf

The main thing to think about is those directives written into the test are there for a purpose..read them and do what they ask you.

As a former judge I will be looking for accuracy. I would expect a transition from the trot to the walk shortly AFTER you pass X not on X.

On your diagonal I would be looking very closely for the horse's shoulder to pass the letter ( like H-X-F). And the horse should arrive at the F letter just before so that the shoulder will pass that letter also.

I will look for a straight horse directly from the H--to F with the rider setting the horse up for the corner bend at the correct time.

Posting diagonals are irrelevant as there is no right or wrong diagonal and if the posting change disrupts the forwardness or straightness of the horse while on the diagonal then change in the following corner...it is your choice here.
     

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