It is great that people constantly post that in order to achieve collection you need the hind end under the horse but real collection is so much more.
I have seen horses "in frame" and even with the hind end under themselves, but when you get on some of these beasts you realize they are not really collected. They are not through or even that light but some of them can go far if the judge does not base their marks on one componant that is often missing in todays horse shown in its "collected" state. Suspension.
So I challenge anyone to describe a correctly collected horse that is through and carries (shows) true suspension.
Post a video if you find one.