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    12-22-2011, 12:04 AM
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Foal
Question Shoulder-in's?

Hey guys,
My coach was teaching me this 'straightness' exercise the other day, but she couldnt remember what it was called, she thought it was called a shoulder 4 or something but she couldnt remember. But then I was looking in a book I have about dressage and it had the shoulder-in, which was relatively the same to what my coach was trying to get me to do. But I know barely anything about dressage, I just do simple Prelim 1A/1B (EFA australia tests) that's all I really do! Haha
So, I just wanted to know if what I was doing was actually a shoulder-in, heres a video of it :)
If its not a shoulder-in, please don't speak to me rudely and act as if I know nothing. I do know stuff, just not stuff about dressage! Haha
~LSJ
     
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    12-22-2011, 12:17 AM
  #2
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It looks like you were attempting a shoulder in..... but you have way too much bend from the shoulder to the head.

You are using too much inside rein and all that is happening is the head is being pulled in and the body has remained on the track. There should be a small amount of cross over leg wise but none has happened.

Look at the forehand positioning here...this is correct.

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    12-22-2011, 12:23 AM
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Yearling
Looks like that was what she was having you try...its hard to see what aids or cues are giving with your legs, just that you're using too much inside rein. Do you remember what you were asking with your legs?
     
    12-22-2011, 12:29 AM
  #4
Trained
Your coach was probably refering to 'shoulder fore', which is essentially a shoulder in with less angle. Shoulder in is performed on 3 tracks, where the horse moves the forehand across slightly, to wrap around your inside leg and work on 3 tracks. The inside fore and outside hind work on their own tracks, while the outside fore and inside hind work on the same track.


Your horse is simply bending his neck to the inside, without any change in shoulder angle.
You will find it easier to ask for shoulder in/fore on a circle, where you already have bend around the inside leg, and all you need to do it move the shoulders over and maintain the bend.
     
    12-22-2011, 04:53 PM
  #5
Foal
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Originally Posted by Kayty    
Your coach was probably refering to 'shoulder fore', which is essentially a shoulder in with less angle. Shoulder in is performed on 3 tracks, where the horse moves the forehand across slightly, to wrap around your inside leg and work on 3 tracks. The inside fore and outside hind work on their own tracks, while the outside fore and inside hind work on the same track.


Your horse is simply bending his neck to the inside, without any change in shoulder angle.
You will find it easier to ask for shoulder in/fore on a circle, where you already have bend around the inside leg, and all you need to do it move the shoulders over and maintain the bend.
Yes! That's it! Shoulder fore! We started off doing a shoulder 4 because Pearl (my horse) wasnt going straight down the side of the track, and is what my coach calls 'crooked'. So she told me to put my inside leg behind the girth and bend her around my leg while going forward and then once we got to the end I did a circle :)
Anyway, thanks for your help guys! :)
     
    12-22-2011, 05:05 PM
  #6
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Originally Posted by LoveeShowJumping    
Yes! That's it! Shoulder fore! We started off doing a shoulder 4 because Pearl (my horse) wasnt going straight down the side of the track, and is what my coach calls 'crooked'. So she told me to put my inside leg behind the girth and bend her around my leg while going forward and then once we got to the end I did a circle :)
Anyway, thanks for your help guys! :)

You can see the difference between the shoulder in video I posted and the Shoulder fore video on this site to what your video showed.

Shoulder Fore
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