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    11-22-2013, 11:05 PM
  #11
Foal
The owner is my trainer and she the one that said to use a non slip pad but I was. Just wondering if their was something else I could do to help
     
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    11-22-2013, 11:12 PM
  #12
Foal
Since all she said was to use a non-sip pad, I would just be ready for anything. Keep your heels down, and stay in the middle of the saddle. You can't do anything else equipment wise. When I fell off my horse because of saddle I was not paying attention. I was just a looking at the sky:) I wish you best of luck in your lessons on the ill fitting saddle.
     
    11-23-2013, 12:38 AM
  #13
Started
If the saddle does fit(not all fitters are created equal) another possibility is that the horse has a forward girth grove, with my appy I have to use an anatomical girth or else the saddle will slip. When the saddle is on the horse pay attention to where the billets line up, if they don't fall where the horses girth grove is(flat spot behind the elbows) then an anatomical may help since the girth will migrate to that spot causing the saddle to be less balanced. An anatomical girth curves so the buckles will line up with the billets but still allow the girth to stay in the girth grove.
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    11-23-2013, 12:49 AM
  #14
Trained
What kind of saddle is it?

I find this is a really common thing with air saddles. Until the back atrophies enough that the spine will hold the saddle on, but if the horse is overweight this effect would probably be negated.

As well, pony probably needs a diet.

IMO I would tell the owner you'll ride the horse when it is in a correct weight and has a well fitting saddle. Otherwise it's too dangerous! Your health should come first and if your coach is not on board with that, find a new coach...
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    11-23-2013, 08:43 AM
  #15
Yearling
Side slip is often due to the saddle being too narrow, I've found. Horses are all one-sided to a greater or lesser degree and the big shoulder forces the saddle to one side. I've even had the fat roll behind the horse's shoulder cause similar with my own horse, in this case forcing one panel back so the tree twisted ie. The channel moved to one side forcing the rear panel across the horse's spine.

So I agree with everyone who said 'get saddle checked'.

Oh, and tightening the girth usually makes the problem worse since it forces the saddle closer to the horse's uneven musculature, with predictable results. And makes it difficult for the rider to re-set the saddle by putting more weight into one iron. It's lose-lose, unfortunately :(
     
    11-23-2013, 09:19 AM
  #16
Showing
Part way thro the lesson the girth should be checked again. My arab was walked and cinched in three stages. An hour into a trail ride the cinch was loose enough to easily slide my whole hand thro. I had to snug it up several times on a two hour ride.
     
    11-23-2013, 12:18 PM
  #17
Foal
[QUOTE][I would tell the owner you'll ride the horse when it is in a correct weight and has a well fitting saddle. Otherwise it's too dangerous! Your health should come first and if your coach is not on board with that, find a new coach.../QUOTE] anebel the trainer ask me to help the pony lose about 25 pound and I don't have a choose on what saddle I use because it is the only one that fits her well. And the trainer I use I trust to know when a horse is too much for me I have know this trainer for 6 years and my mom has know her for about 25 year so I know this trainer well and their is no better trainer in the area. It was my fuslt the fall had happen if I had not have put a bit more wight on one side then it would not have happen and I know that this pony is a good pony because before I fell we had been doing walk and tort work in frame and on the bit most of the time so I do not want to give up a great horse like her on the saddle slip. But I was just wonder if their was a way that would help it not slip
     
    11-23-2013, 01:24 PM
  #18
Foal
And I am not sure what type of saddle it is I can take a look on Sunday
     
    11-23-2013, 02:52 PM
  #19
Foal
And the pony is on hey only nothing else unless it's a treat
     
    11-23-2013, 04:37 PM
  #20
Trained
Why can the pony not be lunged as exercise for a couple of weeks, then reevaluate the fit of the saddle?
If doesn't matter how good the pony is, if the saddle doesn't fit and is slipping to the side, it is dangerous. The pony could be a saint and stop happily with you swinging around under its belly, but it is still dangerous!
If you put more weight on one stirrup, then yes you need to learn to have a more balanced seat, BUT in a saddle that slips sideways, this is impossible. As soon as it starts to slide even slightly off centre, your balance will be off and then it's just a circle of unbalance until the saddle is forced so sideways that it slips right around.

Anebel is right, get some weight off the pony so it is not so round, and get the saddle refitted properly - not a quick look at it and deciding it'll do.
What happens if the saddle slips around under the horse and you get stuck in it? Yes, I have seen it happen to a child on a pony and she ended up being knocked unconscious. Not nice.
Get it fixed.
     

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